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As a Hoosier... I had to check the relevance... and learned it's basically a fork^3 of Solaris, a Sun operating system. OpenIndiana[3] Note: I guessed here at [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenIndiana [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illumos [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSolaris [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Solaris
Is there really a valid use case these days if you are not a hobbyist/fanboy or have existing Solaris workload compared to FreeBSD (or Linux if licensing isn't an issue)? ZFS seems quite well-supported on those.
If a package update failed for whatever reason one could simply revert to a previous boot environment and configuring permissions on NFS exports worked directly integrated with ZFS. Really nice.
On other platforms there is a lot more fiddling around required.
Wow. Illumos / Solaris is still kicking, eh? Really too bad Solaris didn’t stick around and was so horribly mismanaged by Sun. Solaris and Vax/VMS is where I started my career decades ago, and still brings back memories.
Not only it is still around from Oracle, it is the only production UNIX with hardware memory tagging enabled. Sadly it is still years away on ARM and x86, Linux and BSD systems.
Wow. Illumos / Solaris is still kicking, eh? Really too bad Solaris didn’t stick around and was so horribly mismanaged by Sun. Solaris and Vax/VMS is where I started my career decades ago, and still brings back memories.
It still is! At Oxide, we have our own illumos (in my understanding, you're supposed to lowercase the i) distribution, discussed on HN a while back https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39178521
I'll keep the small "i" in mind as well. :)
Everything is converging on Linux these days, and even the majority of the people who used to promote Solaris, DTrace and ZFS, have seemingly moved on, mostly to Linux, somewhat to FreeBSD, too, per Brendan Gregg: Solaris to Linux Migration 2017 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15177118 - Sept 2017 (129 comments) In the BSD land, things aren't that much better, either. Netgate, the makers of pfSense, are now us…
I personally believe that illumos will survive for decades, and it very well could rise again for those users that want/need robust stability.
One particularly notable design win was Oxide Computer Company as their hypervisor. They published their reasoning for choosing illumos here:
Everything is converging on Linux these days, and even the majority of the people who used to promote Solaris, DTrace and ZFS, have seemingly moved on, mostly to Linux, somewhat to FreeBSD, too, per Brendan Gregg: Solaris to Linux Migration 2017 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15177118 - Sept 2017 (129 comments) In the BSD land, things aren't that much better, either. Netgate, the makers of pfSense, are now us…
"There’s a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. ... Now, mostly dead is slightly alive. Now, all dead…well, with all dead, there’s usually only one thing that you can do." I personally believe that illumos will survive for decades, and it very well could rise again for those users that want/need robust stability. One particularly notable design win was Oxide Computer Company as their hypervisor. They publ…
Great episode! The Dell PERC "parity issue" "you're the only customer having this issue" story is hilarious, reminds me of my own experience getting support over the years as a non-Windows user!
Sadly, today, "non-Windows" is simply being replaced with "non-Linux", so, if you run BSD or Illumos, it's still the same issues.
Oxide Computer is great, I really do hope they succeed, because it does seem like an uphill battle!
Everything is converging on Linux these days, and even the majority of the people who used to promote Solaris, DTrace and ZFS, have seemingly moved on, mostly to Linux, somewhat to FreeBSD, too, per Brendan Gregg: Solaris to Linux Migration 2017 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15177118 - Sept 2017 (129 comments) In the BSD land, things aren't that much better, either. Netgate, the makers of pfSense, are now us…
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I’m of the opinion that the acquisition of Sun by Oracle was the worst possible outcome; it guaranteed that Solaris would decline.
Solaris was the development OS for Oracle for years. I presume that's now shifted to their own linux distro but for many years that was the case, to the point that if you were a serious Oracle customer you ran it on Solaris (and Sun hardware) because all the bug fixes and updates came out first for that platform. So from that standpoint it makes sense that they acquired it. They probably just didn't care about any no…
I wouldn't bet on that. Their Linux distro is a RHEL clone, but they have total control over Solaris.
After enabling a share, connect as root and set NTFS alike ACL via Windows. The SMB server is using Windows SID (not uid/gid) as ACL and Windows-ish SMB groups on Illumos (not Unix groups)