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Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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KptMarchewa wrote: post #230
nradov wrote: post #220

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Be careful what you wish for. China also has the hukou system, which is sort of an internal passport that effectively prevents many people from moving into the popular tourist locations. Get out into the rural areas and you'll still see a lot of real poverty, although housing is cheap enough there that there aren't many homeless. There's also a cultural factor at work. Allowing a relative to be homeless causes loss o…

Countries generally have a immigration system that prevents people from moving there when you don't have enough money to support yourself.

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Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Post by strken »

nradov wrote: post #221
testing22321 wrote: post #177

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A generation ago we didn't have public third places where people could plug in a desktop computer and printer.

I did, sort of, depending on what you mean by "public". My local pub provided a free desktop computer, my local library did too (and the librarian once allowed me to set up my own desktop), my community had two regular lan parties, you could rent the local hall for a pittance, and all my friends' parents owned houses with spare rooms or garages that they'd let us set up projects in.

I get that not all of these are strictly public spaces or places where you'd do office work, but it must suck to have nowhere better to go than a Starbucks.

Edit: even today, I think I could probably ask my local library and they'd let me, although someone might steal my monitor.

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Post by jalapenos »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #4
jalapenos wrote: post #3

I feel genuinely sad for anyone who's in such a desperate spot that they're doing this

What makes you think they’re desperate? IME people from Asian cultures sometimes have ways of thinking that strike at least me personally as basically alien. And then my brain interpolates their motives wrong based on biases that are shaped by western versions of politeness etc.

Who the eff lugs their desktop machine and printer to Starbucks instead of just use it in their house if that's a workable option? You'd have to be sorely motivated by something. Asians are in fact human dude.

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Post by grubbs »

royskee wrote: post #176
samschooler wrote: post #99

There is a photo in the Korea Herald article linked in op's article. https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10550038

OMG someone brought in a cubicle

And what looks like a keychron mechanical keyboard! (Loud AF)

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Post by apt-apt-apt-apt »

mk_stjames wrote: post #199
ViktorRay wrote: post #161

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The actual arithmetic is easy but most people don’t know about the batteries in e-bikes. They might not know about the electricity prices at the top of their heads either. You could google those…but it seems easier to just use GPT if you’re going to google that stuff anyway.

Well considering the GPT reported '30 cents' a charge, it is either a. considering 3x larger battery than I would consider average e-bike sized (and I got my 500Wh number based on a 10-second google scan), b. price of electricity it is considering is 3x higher (highly doubt it) or c. it is imagining that modern lithium ion charging efficiencies wall-to-battery are way, way worse than they actually are (possible to ha…

The estimate was based on a battery of 750Wh (bikes seem to range .5-1 KWh) and CA prices are around 30 cents/KWh. That's 2.25x your meanly worded estimate.

I did learn how simple the cost calculation is though (capacity * $/KWh), thanks.

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Post by profsummergig »

pm90 wrote: post #195
dismalaf wrote: post #162

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Homeless people do it all the time in certain cities. And because judges won't jail them for crimes police have stopped trying.

How will jailing them help? Now the public is on the hook for them. Plus, more jails will be needed if you wanna move all the unhoused in there. Maybe its easier just to build more housing.

having the public on the "hook" for them is more responsible than forcing private establishments to pick up the tab. starbucks doesn't want to be on the hook for them either.

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Post by bombcar »

codedokode wrote: post #184
dismalaf wrote: post #162

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Homeless people do it all the time in certain cities. And because judges won't jail them for crimes police have stopped trying.

Interesting. Can a tourist set up a tent in New York City in order to not pay ridiculous hotel fees or this is allowed only to citizens?

If you have anything to lose you can’t be homeless (or they’ll take it from you first).

Once you’re judgement proof do whatever you want.

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Post by bombcar »

HSO wrote: post #146
eqvinox wrote: post #76

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They'd have to charge people for using those, which people won't be eager to. The point of coffee shops in this regard is that the use as free coworking space is "parasitic" on the space being financed by the café business.

they could integrate it with their loyalty points system, whatever it was called, starbucks card or sth either pay with points, or get a cheaper rate for points, or even get points if you pay normal for the cowirking space the card could also double as a validator, either for the reserved space or as a key card to a closed one, saving on in-store admin work if i were starbucks, i would 100% try this clearly there is…

At thy point its no longer a loyalty card; its a fealty system, with landed lords (Starbucks) and serfs.

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Post by forinti »

A food court near my house has slowly turned into an improvised coworking space.

It's relatively quiet (as food courts go). For a while, the café even offered a whole day's worth of coffee for a reasonable price.

What I don't get is why the increasingly empty malls in my state don't incentivise this more. At the very least they'd earn something from parking and some food and drinks.

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