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Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Most developers could not really do their own thing on a PC/laptop that is not theirs. Are they supposed to set up their development environment each time?

For work oriented cafe, owners can partner with Teamviewer, license seats from it and then advertise this as a fast remote service. Iirc teamviewer requires payment only for host machine, clients can be free. Though I imagine the market for such setup would be extremely small and unprofitable.

Clearly StarBucks should rent out StarBucks branded developer machines in the cloud, which you can access from home or from StarBucks terminals.

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Japanese Manga Cafes / Internet Cafes give you all you can drink coffee and tea for hourly pricing, and usually comes with a PC and a private booth. I'm not sure how much of a thing they still are though, but they were big in the 2000s and early 10s

This is what we had all over the world (...) when Internet Cafes were a thing. Perhaps they should come back?

The "Santander Work Cafes" (https://www.santanderbank.com/workcafe/cafe) are an excellent implementation of this.

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Why would anyone except a gamer buy a desktop computer anyway. I guess some people still have their old computer and a lot of south korenas are gamers, but laptops are just better overall because of the portability. If people bring printerS pural then starbuck could "just" have a free-ish printer

Show me that quiet, 16 core, 5 GHz, 128 GB RAM laptop that's actually pretty cheap, too. I do need the CPU performance, that computer is used to compile C++ code. The RAM is for local LLMs - not fast enough to be practical most of the time tbh, but I like to experiment anyway.

The MacBook Pro with M4 Max will give you 16 cores (12 of which run at 4.5Ghz) and 128GB of RAM, and will likely pretty closely match the speed of the desktop processor for compiling C++ (at least we've done benchmarking of rustc in /r/rust the top-spec Apple chips somehow match top-spec x86 chips).

It certainly won't be cheap though!

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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At this point I wonder why Starbucks hasn't diversified and started building actual coworking spaces in addition to coffee shops. They look like they should be in an ideal position for that.

They'd have to charge people for using those, which people won't be eager to. The point of coffee shops in this regard is that the use as free coworking space is "parasitic" on the space being financed by the café business.

I wonder how often they try large floor plans. Most Starbucks I see try to keep things small. What happens if you make it a bit larger, like a small library? I wonder if the increase in foot traffic and sales would offset the cost of extra real estate. They could keep it free, but also somewhat cross over into coworking.

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Why would anyone except a gamer buy a desktop computer anyway. I guess some people still have their old computer and a lot of south korenas are gamers, but laptops are just better overall because of the portability. If people bring printerS pural then starbuck could "just" have a free-ish printer

Show me that quiet, 16 core, 5 GHz, 128 GB RAM laptop that's actually pretty cheap, too. I do need the CPU performance, that computer is used to compile C++ code. The RAM is for local LLMs - not fast enough to be practical most of the time tbh, but I like to experiment anyway.

An AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395 should do that.

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Why would anyone except a gamer buy a desktop computer anyway. I guess some people still have their old computer and a lot of south korenas are gamers, but laptops are just better overall because of the portability. If people bring printerS pural then starbuck could "just" have a free-ish printer

If you don’t need the portability, desktops are strictly better.

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most developers could not really do their own thing on a PC/laptop that is not theirs. Are they supposed to set up their development environment each time?

For work oriented cafe, owners can partner with Teamviewer, license seats from it and then advertise this as a fast remote service. Iirc teamviewer requires payment only for host machine, clients can be free. Though I imagine the market for such setup would be extremely small and unprofitable.

Seems overly complicated when you could just give a plug for charger and let them use their own laptops.

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Newer Coworking places generally seem to have some Starbucks-vibes, but AFAIK they are not doing to well. Maybe the price of a coffee is exactly what people are willing to pay for a seat, a small table, and wifi for some hours.

I haven't seen a coworking place that isn't insanely overpriced compared to a coffee shop so it's no surprise they're not doing well.

In my experience price isn't the only issue. One of the (smaller) coworking spaces I can have access to locally, closes at 6pm while a coffee shop at around 9-10PM and it's also open on weekends.

But then again, I find working in coffee shops too distracting, so work from home and randomly popping into a coworking space now and then.

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