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Is that a business they even want, someone occupying a seat for 8 hours only to consume two coffees?
They want people, but I think a printer crosses the line. It's a Starbucks not a Kinko's.
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I mostly used the British Library, which was lovely and just the right level of quiet. But it gradually got more popular -- when I popped in recently, the (expanded) working areas were very crowded.
Nice - I tried libraries and also used friends club memberships - but I needed to do a lot of video calls, so a place I could talk freely was needed. A friend of mine seemed to manage to join nice clubs early on good terms (and low costs), and ran a mobile advertising business for a good few years without ever having a proper office space - just working from home then the clubs as needed for meetings etc. But his lin…
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#133I saw a guy (in america) charge his e-bike battery once at Starbucks. GPT estimates a full recharge to be around 30 cents.
>GPT estimates (...)
Dude it's middle school math. Average pedal assist e-bike battery, estimate at 500 watt-hours. Electricity prices at my home are about 20 cents per kilowatt-hour.(0.5 kwhr) * (20 cents/kwhr) = 10 cents. With an additional 10-15% due to charging system inefficiencies (lost to heat). 11 cents.
It can be good exercise to do an 8th grade level word problem every now and then.
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Or have actual public places? The Cafe's are there to serve coffee, it's just courtesy as business model to let you hang around in the premises and when the business model starts to fail in some way they adjust it. After university, the most I miss is the actual places that are mine to use and are made for hanging around or working and not necessarily consuming anything.
> The Cafe's are there to serve coffee, it's just courtesy as business model to let you hang around Traditionally it's the other way around, the drink is a by-product of a public house where people can gather. Could you imagine a bar where people are just supposed to drink and leave?
That is what a "bar" was invented to do. In the old public house, patrons would remain seated and the alcohol was brought to them. A heavy drinker would drink until they couldnt walk, but would still occupy a chair. Then the "bar" was invented. Patrons now come to the alcohol and will generally depart before becoming legless. A single bartender can now dish out far more alcohol per hour than any table server. That didnt exist as a concept until a couple hundred years ago.
Proper sushi "bars" follow the same pattern. You eat solo, often with curtains between individual patrons. You eat fast. Then you leave. You dont hang around for a chat.
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#135There is a photo in the Korea Herald article linked in op's article. https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10550038
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#136In 2014, in a Starbucks in Los Gatos, CA, I saw someone bring in a (small) desktop PC and a monitor and set it up at a table.
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#138There is a photo in the Korea Herald article linked in op's article. https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10550038
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They'd have to charge people for using those, which people won't be eager to. The point of coffee shops in this regard is that the use as free coworking space is "parasitic" on the space being financed by the café business.
I wonder how often they try large floor plans. Most Starbucks I see try to keep things small. What happens if you make it a bit larger, like a small library? I wonder if the increase in foot traffic and sales would offset the cost of extra real estate. They could keep it free, but also somewhat cross over into coworking.
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What were you printing that required a print to be carried with you? Personally printing should be banned. The amount of paper waste we create disgraceful.
I worked for a Japanese company. Paper is a big deal, there. Also, I have long subscribed to Tufte's "supergraphic" methodology, when giving presentations.
About time they evolved to the next level then.
My point still sticks. Paper waste is a large impact to climate change. We shouldn't be using paper anymore, why do we proceed to waste such as by printing out email's?