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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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You really think Microsoft has been ”cool” for the past decade or so? First the rampant spyware, then they gradually wreck every single piece of software into unusable buggy AI-slop-mess just to play the trashy MBA valuation games. I still hold nostalgic value for the old OSes (say up to XP/7) but everything after has been nothing but maximal profit extraction. Dont get me started on Azure

Not OP, but I do. The '90s/00s era of people hating on M$ and picturing them as the Borg had left room to the 10s/20s of MS being "friendly" and releasing open source and free things (typescript, vs code, core.net, wsl, work on python etc) and not completely screwing up acquisitions like GitHub or Mojang. Windows became adware, and office became some crappy online thing, but _microsoft_ had became nicer and gained go…

Yep, that is more of less the point I was making.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Not just that, but Microsoft's reputation is in the process of taking a nose dive over its human rights record https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/06/microsoft-isra...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillehammer_affair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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GitLab is like, really good. No need to put your codebase in the "cloud."

GitLab is great - but super fat. The performance will suffer heavily if you don't give it the resources it wants (all RAM you can find, lol). If you only need Git plus project tracking Gitea is super mature. It runs happily on small VPS.

Gitea's UI is ugly.

While GitHub and GitLab have dedicated design and front-end teams to improve their UI/UX, Gitea and Forgejo aren't large enough to reach that scale, even after Gitea became a company.

For example, look at the number of issues triaged with "UX" [0] or "UX Paper Cut" [1] on GitLab. It is an order of magnitude larger than you would find in any other FOSS option.

[0]: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/?label_name%5B...

[1]: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/?label_name%5B...

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Heres the thing: it was a dev company with a side-AI business, but now Microsoft has signaled it wants an AI-GitHub with a dev-side business. The features that will be prioritized will be AI not Git improvement

Are there any improvements to be done to Git? It seems like kind of a solved problem, like word processors or spreadsheets… most “improvements” to those are diminishing returns. I don't mean to sounds like an MS apologist, btw. I fully predicted and hoped for an exodus from Github to GitLab or something back when it got acquired — I'm from the Microsux generation.

For Git? Maybe not. For GitHub? IPv6 support would sure be nice: https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/10539

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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My deepest concern at this time isn't that AI eventually gets written down to nothing; because I don't think it will. Its that these companies are so scared of being out-competed by an AI-first competitor that they're willing to make deep sacrifices to their core businesses just to effectively virtue signal that they're AI first and unable to be out-competed. It is deeply concerning because all things point to realit…

> None of these big tech companies have leveraged AI to build anything remotely interesting from a product perspective. Its truly astounding how bad they are at it. Oh my God, tell me about it. Our C levels are being fed bullshit by all of our vendors about how AI is going to transform their business. Every few weeks I have to ask "what the fuck does that mean exactly?" "Oh, well, agentic AI and workflows blah blah."…

It's very funny that for pretty much any use case of LLMs, they're either too expensive or too incapable or both! There may be a few uses that make sense, but it seems to be incredibly hard to find the balance.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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I've seen enough: as the recognised authority and designated responsible person ;) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7525256 I'm officially recognising this as the final end of 2010s Cool Microsoft.

> 74 points by leoc on April 3, 2014 | parent | context | favorite | on: Microsoft Open Sources C# Compiler

> Well, here we are then. This now officially the standard play for formerly-dominating computer-platform firms who have fallen on hard times: having before been proudly hard-nosed and proprietary, publicly see the light and present a new image as a new, kinder, gentler company which totally gets it about openness. Former famous examples: IBM under Lou Gerstner (we love Linux and open platforms!), Apple after the NeXT acquisition but before the iPhone (look how expandable our new PowerMacs are; on the software side, we're now an open-systems-loving Unix vendor, and we'll even open-source our kernel!), poor old SGI (we love Linux now! Or, wait ... actually WinNT, whatever.). Sun of course used to go back and forth between being chill dudes who totally get it and more nakedly hard-nosed. As always in these cases, the questions are how far the bright new era of glasnost actually goes in substance (IBM legal's patent monster quietly thrived through all the kinder-gentler period) and how long it lasts (these eras tend to end with the company either dwindling into irrelevance, or finding renewed success and going back to its bad old ways).

Historical debate may now begin.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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I made the decision a few months back to go all in on self-hosting, and my own infrastructure. At least once a week I run into something that makes me realize I made the right decision. It's that time of the week again.

What are you using for git repos?

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