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GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by smcin »

stogot wrote: post #75
paxys wrote: post #43

Not too surprising considering how big a lead Github had in the generative coding space and how it managed to give it all up to a half dozen different companies over the last few years. An executive shakeup was long overdue.

Heres the thing: it was a dev company with a side-AI business, but now Microsoft has signaled it wants an AI-GitHub with a dev-side business. The features that will be prioritized will be AI not Git improvement

It's murky what Github's priorities going forward as part of CoreAI will be, and whether it will become even more of a subliminal marketing machine/ content source for AI codegen...

GitHub has (only) $2bn direct revenues (2024; subscriptions + presumably per-usage billing of features like GitHub Actions) but also generates revenue via Copilot, Marketplace (selling tools and integrations).

What are Microsoft CoreAI's revenues? surely >> GH's direct revenues. Hence, GH is likely to become a platform for pushing all sorts of AI revenue streams on its users. I wonder how Microsoft sees that, by segment.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by newspaper1 »

pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

This is an odd comment. Xamarin has never been relevant. GitHub is historically OSS focused. Xamarin was some weird niche product for Windows devs. Hardly any overlap with GitHub’s core audience. I don’t know what will happen next, but hodgepodge of weird MS tech isn’t the lens to view this through.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by coliveira »

riffraff wrote: post #127
waihtis wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You really think Microsoft has been ”cool” for the past decade or so? First the rampant spyware, then they gradually wreck every single piece of software into unusable buggy AI-slop-mess just to play the trashy MBA valuation games. I still hold nostalgic value for the old OSes (say up to XP/7) but everything after has been nothing but maximal profit extraction. Dont get me started on Azure

Not OP, but I do. The '90s/00s era of people hating on M$ and picturing them as the Borg had left room to the 10s/20s of MS being "friendly" and releasing open source and free things (typescript, vs code, core.net, wsl, work on python etc) and not completely screwing up acquisitions like GitHub or Mojang. Windows became adware, and office became some crappy online thing, but _microsoft_ had became nicer and gained go…

Only people without any sense of reality believed this. Being exploitative is a core feature of MS, since its foundation. It's like believing a serpent won't bite you. They're in the middle of the embrace, extend and extinguish cycle for open source technologies.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by pm90 »

Unsurprising but its a terrible move.

Github at its core is a software lifecycle management product. To keep it running requires skillsets that are much much different from that of Gen AI/ML/whatever. Its hard for me to see this as anything other than an intra corporate political play and not something thats in the best interests of the users or the community. I expect to see a lot of the “legacy Github” folks slowly leave and be replaced by MS/Azure folks (gross). In the short to medium term this is probably gonna affect the stability of the system (its already pretty bad with several outages every month, including silent outages).

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by x0x0 »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #78
stogot wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heres the thing: it was a dev company with a side-AI business, but now Microsoft has signaled it wants an AI-GitHub with a dev-side business. The features that will be prioritized will be AI not Git improvement

Are there any improvements to be done to Git? It seems like kind of a solved problem, like word processors or spreadsheets… most “improvements” to those are diminishing returns. I don't mean to sounds like an MS apologist, btw. I fully predicted and hoped for an exodus from Github to GitLab or something back when it got acquired — I'm from the Microsux generation.

Their CI / script runner tool is still total garbage. Starting with the rampant security holes (oh, make sure you pin everything you use by hash, which essentially nobody does; what was that about secure by default rather than secure by extra effort again?) and following with the only way to test it is to deploy over and over.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by Aeolun »

brightball wrote: post #98
pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

I’m glad Gitlab is still an option, just sitting there waiting to absorb the market pivot if Microsoft takes it the wrong way.

Gitlab is not really an option for me. Their pricing is absolutely out of this world.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by fisiu »

dboreham wrote: post #161
taxborn wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Additionally there is Codeburg/Forgejo, and for the atproto-enjoyers, tangled.sh is a new face that feels like it could be good.

And gitea (originally a Forgejo fork).

Vice versa, forgejo is a gitea fork.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by lordofgibbons »

mindcrash wrote: post #107
ikidd wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see more people jump for Codeberg these days.

Or even better, claim full sovereignty (again) and install Forgejo ( https://forgejo.org/ ) on your own hardware. You'll get the same experience as Codeberg, because Codeberg is in fact running on Forgejo

The UI looks very similar to Gitea. Are they related? And how do they compare?
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