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The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

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Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

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post #236

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Not commenting about the ic/leo part specifically, but there is a pretty abundant body of work on what "normal" people are willing to do, as long as they find a way to rationalize it away. The banality of evil is well documented. In that light, what others would do is rarely a reliable indicator that you shouldn’t think twice about your actions, lest you regret later, once the thinking has happened.

I have no idea what any of this has to do with anything I just wrote, I'm sorry.

I was commenting on your point that a pretty substantial fraction of normal people find some actions decent, and even praiseworthy.

My point is that this fact shouldn’t belong in a discussion about ethics, given how often widely held moral positions have come to be a source of regret.

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

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Kind of life changing money, good to see such rewards

the first time I got a bonus that big, $240k, I thought it would be life changing. the gov took $100k in taxes. I paid off my car $20k. then when I really thought about it there wasn’t much I could do. It was not a down payment on a house in LA/SF/NYC. it was not enough to start a company and hire people. If I’d changed my life style to be like a college student and live with roommates then it might have given me 2-3…

225k in 2025 dollars is life changing for anyone in the middle class of income. The reason you were unable to do anything with it is because you were already earning too much.

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

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post #113

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Immediate follow up questions from the tax man, and then shortly afterwards the police "who is this guy? where is the invoice? what is his phone number?"

No, it doesnt typically work that way at all. The tax man just wants to get paid. I grew up in an area known for people growing cannabis before it was legal. An enormous amount of taxes got dodged through cash land deals, but tons of people just claimed the income under various categories and no one ever came knocking because of that. Its usually the other way around. If you caught the Fed's eye, then they might try…

Are you talking about the IRS at the Federal level or someone else in the US?

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

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Don't forget about YouTube!

What about YouTube? uBlock Origin Lite blocks YouTube ads just fine.

Not for everyone.

Do you really think Google wouldn't do anything about as blockers? Especially now that no ads is one of the selling points of YouTube Premium?

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

#245
post #72

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Spending a lot of time debugging code. Eventually, the pattern recognizer in your brain will pick out the bugs. The term for this is "code smell". For example, when I'd review C code I'd look at the str???() function use. They are nearly always infested with bugs, usually either neglecting to add a terminator zero or neglecting to add sufficient storage for the terminating zero.

It is crazy that anytime someone works on application layer and wants to manipulate string, which is a very, very common thing to do when writing application, one has to consider \0 which would be an implementation detail. How can that language still be so popular?

C was popular because, if one is familiar with assembler, it takes about an hour to become adept at programming in it.

It's also an easy language to write a compiler for. At one point I counted over 30 C compilers available for DOS.

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

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post #14

He had a pretty reliable exploit on the most used browser, pretty sure it he could have gotten more tax free on the black market. Now, with EDR widely deployed it's likely that the exploit usage ends up being caught sooner than later, but pretty sure some dictatorship intelligence agency would have found all those journalists deep compromise worthwhile...

> Now, with EDR widely deployed it's likely that the exploit usage ends up being caught sooner than later lol

Why? If you actually exit the sandbox you'll start leaving traces, and eventually you'll slip and be looked at. That's part of the story EDR vendors sell at least.

You can't deny that you are way more likely to burn the exploit using it on a machine under watch than on a machine that is not...

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

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post #94
post #72

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It is crazy that anytime someone works on application layer and wants to manipulate string, which is a very, very common thing to do when writing application, one has to consider \0 which would be an implementation detail. How can that language still be so popular?

The language is just fine. The real question is: Why do people not use a string library that abstracts this away safely?

Oh, people tried. Every C programmer tried it. I tried multiple times. They all failed.

Back when I was musing about what D would be like, I happened across some BASIC code. I was drawn to the use of strings, which were so simple in BASIC. I decided that D would be a failure if strings weren't as easy to use as in BASIC.

And D strings turned out to be better than I'd dared hope!

I proposed an enhancement to C to get much of that benefit, but it received zero traction in the C community. Oh well.

https://www.digitalmars.com/articles/C-biggest-mistake.html

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

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post #84
post #72

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It is crazy that anytime someone works on application layer and wants to manipulate string, which is a very, very common thing to do when writing application, one has to consider \0 which would be an implementation detail. How can that language still be so popular?

Because whatever language you think should be popular instead is running on a mountain of C code, but the reverse isn't true.

The D implementation and runtime library has zero C code in it.

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

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post #39

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First you compromise the renderer process via e.g. a bug in the JS engine. But even if you have native code execution in the context of the renderer process, you're still in a sandbox. The bug in the OP is for the second stage - breaking out of the sandbox. The referenced `patch.diff` is basically for simulating a compromised renderer.

> The referenced `patch.diff` is basically for simulating a compromised renderer. The patch.diff part is hard to understand. Surely if you have a compromised renderer, you have effectively full access to the machine already?

The main browser process treats the renderer as untrustworthy/potentially hostile. A compromised renderer is in the threat model.

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

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How does https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_Act play into that?

Off the cuff, I'd guess that any official documentation would be around the sale of "research" and not "an exploit". Depending how classy the buyer was about it, there might or might not be an offline wink and nudge.

Selling exploits doesn't inherently violate the CFAA.
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