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Pirate Bay Founder Arrest Followed By $59m Swedish Aid Package For Cambodia

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Re: Pirate Bay Founder Arrest Followed By $59m Swedish Aid Package For Cambodia

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Yes, plausible deniability is present... the Swedish may have a soft spot for Cambodia's challenges. A list of Swedish foreign aid amounts and recipients would be interesting to compare this $59M with.

as someone else pointed out. The $59M is over 2 years, and the foreign aid was decided on 6 months previous to this. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4480754

Ah. I wonder how long he's been in Cambodia...

Re: Pirate Bay Founder Arrest Followed By $59m Swedish Aid Package For Cambodia

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Am I the only one tired over how TorrentFreak will say anything, related or not, to try to confirm their bias? This aid was decided on for over 5 months ago, in march 2012 ( http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/574/a/94013 ), and it is obviously not the result of Sweden trying to get at Svartholm. But if you want to be believe it then please do...

Svartholm has been in Cambodia for more than 5 months, hasn't he? Not to mention it's a known fact he's been there many times before. So wouldn't it make sense that the Swedish government made this look like it wasn't related by pre-planning in advance the all of a sudden generous and higher than usual aide payment in exchange for Svartholm being deported?

Re: Pirate Bay Founder Arrest Followed By $59m Swedish Aid Package For Cambodia

#53

An aid package of 60 million dollars would be three times the amount they spent yearly on Cambodia in the last decade (with little variance). See [1]. [1]: http://www.openaid.se/en/countries/kambodja?year=2012

Coincidentally, it would be thirty hundred thousand times the amount I would pay to a local Cambodian corrupt cop to get that dude's ass on jail. With little variance. Point is, Swedish readers, you should vote me for chief prosecutor of your country.

No, seriously. TorrentFreak here wants us to believe that Cambodia got 40G$ for arresting someone who is not precisely Pablo Escobar reincarnate. Do they seriously want us to believe that the Swedish Minister of Justice is that incompetent? I mean, some calls, an Interpol red notice... I could get it done for less than a million, my fees included. So vote me.

Re: Pirate Bay Founder Arrest Followed By $59m Swedish Aid Package For Cambodia

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I didn't know Sweeden gave money to Cambodia and I am glad that TorrentFreak informed me of this. Foreign aid from rich to poor countries is used in general to keep diplomatic cooperation flowing smoothly in matters of interest to the giver country.

It's "Sweden," not "Sweeden." I see a lot of people making that mistake on HN[1]. [1] http://www.google.com/search?q=site:news.ycombinator.com+swe...

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Re: Pirate Bay Founder Arrest Followed By $59m Swedish Aid Package For Cambodia

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't know Sweeden gave money to Cambodia and I am glad that TorrentFreak informed me of this. Foreign aid from rich to poor countries is used in general to keep diplomatic cooperation flowing smoothly in matters of interest to the giver country.

It's "Sweden," not "Sweeden." I see a lot of people making that mistake on HN[1]. [1] http://www.google.com/search?q=site:news.ycombinator.com+swe...

Looks like HN strips out the quotes needed to make this query work. Here: http://goo.gl/zMUQY

Re: Pirate Bay Founder Arrest Followed By $59m Swedish Aid Package For Cambodia

#57

It's honestly a shame that TF's propaganda has found a home here on HN.

That's an interesting use of the word "propaganda".

It's quite literally exactly what propaganda is, according to dictionaries, wikipedia, etc... it doesn't stop being propaganda just because you like what they have to say, that just makes it successful propaganda. Also in the literal sense.

Re: Pirate Bay Founder Arrest Followed By $59m Swedish Aid Package For Cambodia

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That's an interesting use of the word "propaganda".

It's quite literally exactly what propaganda is, according to dictionaries, wikipedia, etc... it doesn't stop being propaganda just because you like what they have to say, that just makes it successful propaganda. Also in the literal sense.

It also carries a lot of unspoken subtext, commonly used by opponents of a position to denigrate the argument without ever responding to it. "Oh it's just propaganda, it can be ignored"

What exactly is misleading about TF's posting?

Re: Pirate Bay Founder Arrest Followed By $59m Swedish Aid Package For Cambodia

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Am I the only one tired over how TorrentFreak will say anything, related or not, to try to confirm their bias? This aid was decided on for over 5 months ago, in march 2012 ( http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/574/a/94013 ), and it is obviously not the result of Sweden trying to get at Svartholm. But if you want to be believe it then please do...

I didn't know Sweeden gave money to Cambodia and I am glad that TorrentFreak informed me of this. Foreign aid from rich to poor countries is used in general to keep diplomatic cooperation flowing smoothly in matters of interest to the giver country.

Sweden is one of few countries that reach the United Nations goal stating that countries should give one percent of their GNP as foreign aid. According to the reports I could find it is currently the largest giver of foreign aid in the world, with regards to it's economy and population.

This wasn't spontaneous. It happens every year although the amounts changes as we see here.

Re: Pirate Bay Founder Arrest Followed By $59m Swedish Aid Package For Cambodia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's quite literally exactly what propaganda is, according to dictionaries, wikipedia, etc... it doesn't stop being propaganda just because you like what they have to say, that just makes it successful propaganda. Also in the literal sense.

It also carries a lot of unspoken subtext, commonly used by opponents of a position to denigrate the argument without ever responding to it. "Oh it's just propaganda, it can be ignored" What exactly is misleading about TF's posting?

Propaganda doesn't have to be "misleading", it's pushing the same narrow viewpoint over and over again to further some agenda. The agenda's called "making money off ads".

This article's a great example since this money is only a small increase on the annual aid Sweden has been giving Cambodia for years, as pointed out in comments.

Or in TorrentFreak speak, "Sweden bribing Cambodia for Pirate Bay arrest since 1979!".

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