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Re: Open models by OpenAI

#42

So this confirms a best-in-class model release within the next few days? From a strategic perspective, I can't think of any reason they'd release this unless they were about to announce something which totally eclipses it?

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Re: Open models by OpenAI

#44

Please don't use the open-source term unless you ship the TBs of data downloaded from Anna's Archive that are required do build it yourself. And dont forget all the system prompts to censor the multiple topics that they don't want you to see.

Keep fighting the "open weights" terminology fight, because diluting the term open-source for a blob of neural network weights (even inference code is open-source) is not open-source.

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#45
Can't wait to see third party benchmarks. The ones in the blog post are quite sparse and it doesn't seem possible to fully compare to other open models yet. But the few numbers available seem to suggest that this release will make all other non-multimodal open models obsolete.

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#46

The repeated safety testing delays might not be purely about technical risks like misuse or jailbreaks. Releasing open weights means relinquishing the control OpenAI has had since GPT-3. No rate limits, no enforceable RLHF guardrails, no audit trail. Unlike API access, open models can't be monitored or revoked. So safety may partly reflect OpenAI's internal reckoning with that irreversible shift in power, not just mo…

I think it's pointless: if you SFT even their closed source models on a specific enough task, the guardrails disappear.

AI "safety" is about making it so that a journalist can't get out a recipe for Tabun just by asking.

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#47
I dont see the unsloth files yet but they'll be here: https://huggingface.co/unsloth/gpt-oss-20b-GGUF

Super excited to test these out.

The benchmarks from 20B are blowing away major >500b models. Insane.

On my hardware.

43 tokens/sec.

I got an error with flash attention turning on. Cant run it with flash attention?

31,000 context is max it will allow or model wont load.

no kv or v quantization.

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#48
post #41

Looks like Groq (at 1k+ tokens/second) and Fireworks are already live on openrouter: https://openrouter.ai/openai/gpt-oss-120b $0.15M in / $0.6-0.75M out edit: Now Cerebras too at 3,815 tps for $0.25M / $0.69M out.

Wow this was actually blazing fast. I prompted "how can the 45th and 47th presidents of america share the same parents?"

On ChatGPT.com o3 thought for for 13 seconds, on OpenRouter GPT OSS 120B thought for 0.7 seconds - and they both had the correct answer.

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#50

Please don't use the open-source term unless you ship the TBs of data downloaded from Anna's Archive that are required do build it yourself. And dont forget all the system prompts to censor the multiple topics that they don't want you to see.

The system prompt is an inference parameter, no?
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