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Re: Open models by OpenAI

#32

Please don't use the open-source term unless you ship the TBs of data downloaded from Anna's Archive that are required do build it yourself. And dont forget all the system prompts to censor the multiple topics that they don't want you to see.

I don’t know why you got so much downvoted, these models are not open-source/open-recipes. They are censored open weights models. Better than nothing, but far from being Open

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#34
The repeated safety testing delays might not be purely about technical risks like misuse or jailbreaks. Releasing open weights means relinquishing the control OpenAI has had since GPT-3. No rate limits, no enforceable RLHF guardrails, no audit trail. Unlike API access, open models can't be monitored or revoked. So safety may partly reflect OpenAI's internal reckoning with that irreversible shift in power, not just model alignment per se. What do you guys think?

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#35

So this confirms a best-in-class model release within the next few days? From a strategic perspective, I can't think of any reason they'd release this unless they were about to announce something which totally eclipses it?

Even before today, the last week or so, it's been clear for a couple reasons, that GPT-5's release was imminent.

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#36
post #28

GPQA Diamond: gpt-oss-120b: 80.1%, Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507: 81.1% Humanity’s Last Exam: gpt-oss-120b (tools): 19.0%, gpt-oss-120b (no tools): 14.9%, Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507: 18.2%

Wow - I will give it a try then. I'm cynical about OpenAI minmaxing benchmarks, but still trying to be optimistic as this in 8bit is such a nice fit for apple silicon

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#37

Please don't use the open-source term unless you ship the TBs of data downloaded from Anna's Archive that are required do build it yourself. And dont forget all the system prompts to censor the multiple topics that they don't want you to see.

by your definition most of the current open weight models would not qualify

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#40
Exciting as this is to toy around with...

Perhaps I missed it somewhere, but I find it frustrating that, unlike most other open weight models and despite this being an open release, OpenAI has chosen to provide pretty minimal transparency regarding model architecture and training. It's become the norm for LLama, Deepseek, Qwenn, Mistral and others to provide a pretty detailed write up on the model which allows researchers to advance and compare notes.

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