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> "we are going to not charge taxes on tips" It's been a very long time since my last visit to the USA. I probably paid tips in cash back then. I would assume that workers can chose to never report those tips as income, or not all of them, so no taxes. But if everybody went cashless by now, customers probably pay the restaurant, the restaurant pays the tips to the workers and all of that money is tracked and taxed. I…
Fascinating how America’s response to people being sick of having to tip on everything, tips being little more than a tax on generosity, was to make this most hated form of remuneration even more advantageous.
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Sales' commissions and servers' tips is an apples-to-oranges comparison.
I think tips in many places are slowly converging into something like a 20% commission paid by the consumer, thanks to restaurants including a suggested tip on the screen or receipt, and bars automatically charging a 20% tip if you don't explicitly close your tab. I hadn't thought of this before, but keeping tips as formally selected and paid for by the consumer may help the restaurant with liability issues where alc…
If the prevailing sentiment was to make things easier for low income workers, I would expect people to want to not tax tips, and increase the minimum wage. And people who want less government interference, would want less tax, and lower minimum wage. Those are the two opinions I expected to see.
But instead it seems like people want to tax tips, and increase the minimum wage, which is evidence of a kind of authoritarianism that I did not expect.
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I live in California and this isn't true here. All restaurant workers receive at least minimum wage before tips. In my city, that's $19/hour with health insurance. Of course, you're still expected to leave a tip and suggested minimum is now 20%, plus even McDonalds is charging $15 for a 4 oz burger, so I rarely go out to eat at places that expect a tip anymore. I'm not sure why they specifically should be tax exempt…
I'm happy that CA doesn't set a lower min wage for tipped workers, but the problem is that in many/most places in CA, $19/hr is still not a living wage, so the tips are more or less required to keep those workers housed and eating. A living wage in most population centers in CA is nearly $30/hr.
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They should. It's easy to report. Doesn't matter if nothing happens right away, because the more reports that accumulate the higher priority it becomes. So instead of trying to tell me how fruitless this is and just give up to endless arguments, maybe report wage theft if you know about it. You can do it anonymously. You can do it for people that tell you. It's not a hopeless situation. Hell, lawyers take payment aft…
It's easy to report, but retaliation is a thing, and is hard -- and expensive -- to prove. Someone subject to wage theft is not the kind of person who can afford that trouble. And it's not like restaurant owners don't talk among themselves. Getting blackballed isn't great. Bottom line is that you seem to think that there's zero reason why people are shy about reporting wage theft. And yet so many people don't want to…
I’m sympathetic to the arguments, but this sounds like scaremongering.
If you have evidence of it, please post.
There are so many restaurants everywhere, just leave the worst place off your resume. I can’t see owners coordinating if there’s no online platform for it.
> But, when three members of the group came forward to testify, all expressed support for the Tipped Workers Protection Act and opposition to the One Fair Wage Act, which they portrayed as an effort to steal their tips This article is missing a real issue here by trying to make the story all about the employers. Many workers like the tip system because it creates inequality among the restaurant workers. Good servers…
It's possible for high end bartenders or servers to make over $500 a night in tips. The whiplash of moving into true salary or hourly work is an open secret in the high end service industry. This is why you see some old waiters and bartenders hanging around, when some people consider the service industry "entry level."
This is also why I don't like to listen to them complain about their jobs lol. The difficulty of work to income ratio is unique to this industry.
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The original poster's subjective, personal experience with tipping culture in Ireland is "factually incorrect"? Perhaps they just had a different experience than you.
Yes, it's factually incorrect. As in, it's both not true and they didn't experience it.
There’s also another commenter in this thread who says they’ve lived in Ireland for their entire life and says they’ve experienced the same thing.
Then, there’s you.
There are two likely explanations I can think of for your behavior here. 1, you are arguing in bad faith. 2, you are unable, for whatever reason, to understand that others might have a different experience in the world than you.
In either case, I don’t see any point in continuing this conversation. Have a nice day.
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> and at MOST 5% on take out Why would you ever tip on take out? What are you tipping for exactly?
The people who cooked the food
> "we are going to not charge taxes on tips" It's been a very long time since my last visit to the USA. I probably paid tips in cash back then. I would assume that workers can chose to never report those tips as income, or not all of them, so no taxes. But if everybody went cashless by now, customers probably pay the restaurant, the restaurant pays the tips to the workers and all of that money is tracked and taxed. I…