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Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by soulofmischief »

netsharc wrote: post #81
wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #77

The Australian Prime Minister - Anthony Albanese - was once asked by a radio host what he would do if he was dictator - he said he would ban all social media. And lets note that the ALP government is very fast and snappy to ban social media, very slow to do important things like: - ban money laundering in real estate - ban gambling advertising And very quick to: - approve massive new coal mines - approve massive new…

Ah yes, because it's the teenage vote and social media voice they're very very worried about...

Uh, yea, it is. Teenagers grow up. In just a few short years. Then they become members of the voting group most vulnerable to propaganda and political manipulation. It's the same reason tobacco and alcohol companies love advertising to teens. You're creating a target that can be identified, manipulated and controlled through social reinforcement.

Teens also have more time to connect with others and develop unsanctioned philosophies than adults who work and take care of the household full-time.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by lotsofpulp »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #74
ncruces wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a parent (who also btw uses Google products every single effin day) I just can't agree. This is entirely Google's issue to fix. Yes, YouTube has amazing educational content. I'd really like to make it available for my kids to see. YouTube, however, makes it completely impossible to permanently filter/hide/disable the bane that is YouTube Shorts. I don't let my kids on TikTok not because it's Chinese, but because i…

Yeah, no amount of effort allows me to shut off YouTube Shorts. Imagine you're the one running a business where you keep repeatedly trying to shove some feature down your user's throat. What's that called in business school? I don't know, I never took any Business courses. That I have no where else to go to see the content I want to see smells like a de-facto monopoly.

> That I have no where else to go to see the content I want to see smells like a de-facto monopoly.

Not in this case, since the content makers can choose to host the digital files on a computer not owner by Alphabet.

Your situation is simply the content maker betting that it is not worth their time to try to earn a return by hosting on a non Alphabet computer.

But Alphabet is doing nothing to stop the content maker and you from reaching a deal.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by jay_kyburz »

WantonQuantum wrote: post #2

It's important to note that this ban is for having an account - it does not ban people under 16 from watching youtube videos.

Also note: just being logged out won't stop the algo choosing content based on past watches.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by decimalenough »

ncruces wrote: post #39
simpaticoder wrote: post #8

Completely banning all of YouTube feels like throwing out the baby—valuable educational content—with the bathwater—everything else. It seems more effective for YouTube to offer a dedicated educational platform, like education.youtube.com, with content filters built in. That way, students could access channels like 3blue1brown without exposure to unrelated or less appropriate content like MrBeast or Jubilee. Heck, I m…

As a parent (who also btw uses Google products every single effin day) I just can't agree. This is entirely Google's issue to fix. Yes, YouTube has amazing educational content. I'd really like to make it available for my kids to see. YouTube, however, makes it completely impossible to permanently filter/hide/disable the bane that is YouTube Shorts. I don't let my kids on TikTok not because it's Chinese, but because i…

You can completely disable Shorts by turning off your YouTube history.

No idea why, but it works and it's blissful. Plus you can still like videos, subscribe to channels and curate your own lists if you want to bookmark stuff to come back to.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by binary132 »

I don’t see what the big deal is. Nobody has ground to stand on in asserting that minors have a moral right to an “online life”. On the other hand, there are tons of good reasons to disallow minors from participating in the free online commons. I’m not saying I necessarily support it in all cases, but I definitely don’t think it’s necessarily a bad or immoral thing either, and it’s a bit surprising that a bunch of extremely online tech jockeys seem to.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by yreg »

general1726 wrote: post #7
WantonQuantum wrote: post #2

It's important to note that this ban is for having an account - it does not ban people under 16 from watching youtube videos.

So you can just log off to bypass it? That seems short sighted.

Maybe they target content production, not content consumption?

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by aspbee555 »

SilverElfin wrote: post #62

Why are so many countries like Australia, UK, EU, etc suddenly pro censorship. Aren’t these all liberal democracies? I would think these policies would be very unpopular. Is there some analysis of how this came to be normalized?

this is why "think of the children" is always used in these instances, it gets right past peoples defenses and if you try to argue against privacy invasive/life invasive/completely useless regulations/regulations ripe for abuse (by design) then you are somehow the "bad guy"

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by jay_kyburz »

28304283409234 wrote: post #37
non- wrote: post #29

Teens are old enough to find their way around any content bans. This seems like a good way to introduce teens to VPN's and skirting content regulations early. It's also dumb because YouTube can teach you almost anything, I'd say it's the "best of the worst" when it comes to social media on the internet.

My teens, and each one I have encountered through them, cannot discern a pixel from a wallsocket. They are tech consumers. Not tech savvy. My dad (82) is more tech savvy.

My 13yo wanted to install some dotnet disassembly or injection tool so he could download mods and inject new code into existing games on steam. All his friends were doing it and I'm the mean dad because I won't let him download any random code from the internet and run it.

They don't know what they are doing, but they know how to follow instructions on github.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by Avamander »

ivanmontillam wrote: post #45
m101 wrote: post #20

Perhaps this will mean a version of YouTube comes out without YouTube shorts integration. YouTube shorts, imo, legitimises the govts complaint.

I really wish there was a version of YT in Android that did not come with YT Shorts. As a YT Premium user, I should be able to disable it, or at least not make it the first thing it opens when I tap on the app icon. I mean, a legit app, not a 3rd party one that'll get my Google account banned eventually. I had to delete it, using: $ adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.youtube It lasted a month for me t…

As a premium user I should be able to add content "made for kids" to playlists and see comments as well. It's absolutely idiotic how "save the children" is just an excuse to fuck over everyone else.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by foobarian »

m101 wrote: post #20

Perhaps this will mean a version of YouTube comes out without YouTube shorts integration. YouTube shorts, imo, legitimises the govts complaint.

I would love to block the shorts at home router level. I hesitate to just block the site altogether
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