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Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by glial »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #65
simpaticoder wrote: post #8

Completely banning all of YouTube feels like throwing out the baby—valuable educational content—with the bathwater—everything else. It seems more effective for YouTube to offer a dedicated educational platform, like education.youtube.com, with content filters built in. That way, students could access channels like 3blue1brown without exposure to unrelated or less appropriate content like MrBeast or Jubilee. Heck, I m…

My thought was that a version of YouTube that: 1. Had no opaque algorithmic feeds 2. No comment sections 3. Have a "show me more content like this" button, but again, no auto algorithmic feeds 4. Filter out age inappropriate content. would be great for teenagers. I think the problem for YouTube is that it would be great for everyone else, too, so they'd get bombarded by "Hey, I want that version" requests, which woul…

5. No "Shorts"

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by schoen »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #58
lanfeust6 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which aren't videos. The entire draw is the video format.

That seems awfully particular.

Grant Sanderson's mathematical animations and visualizations are famously excellent, though. He developed his own mathematics animation software just for his channel. I wouldn't think of video as preferable to textbooks for math education in general, but for his sort of videos, I might!

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by simmerup »

ivanmontillam wrote: post #45
m101 wrote: post #20

Perhaps this will mean a version of YouTube comes out without YouTube shorts integration. YouTube shorts, imo, legitimises the govts complaint.

I really wish there was a version of YT in Android that did not come with YT Shorts. As a YT Premium user, I should be able to disable it, or at least not make it the first thing it opens when I tap on the app icon. I mean, a legit app, not a 3rd party one that'll get my Google account banned eventually. I had to delete it, using: $ adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.youtube It lasted a month for me t…

I've recently started watching shorts. I blink and an hour has passed!

Ridiculous. Adding insult to injury, a significant portion of them seem to be AI generated

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by JKCalhoun »

ncruces wrote: post #39
simpaticoder wrote: post #8

Completely banning all of YouTube feels like throwing out the baby—valuable educational content—with the bathwater—everything else. It seems more effective for YouTube to offer a dedicated educational platform, like education.youtube.com, with content filters built in. That way, students could access channels like 3blue1brown without exposure to unrelated or less appropriate content like MrBeast or Jubilee. Heck, I m…

As a parent (who also btw uses Google products every single effin day) I just can't agree. This is entirely Google's issue to fix. Yes, YouTube has amazing educational content. I'd really like to make it available for my kids to see. YouTube, however, makes it completely impossible to permanently filter/hide/disable the bane that is YouTube Shorts. I don't let my kids on TikTok not because it's Chinese, but because i…

Yeah, no amount of effort allows me to shut off YouTube Shorts.

Imagine you're the one running a business where you keep repeatedly trying to shove some feature down your user's throat.

What's that called in business school? I don't know, I never took any Business courses.

That I have no where else to go to see the content I want to see smells like a de-facto monopoly.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by simmerup »

seydor wrote: post #31

This is raising a generation of radicalized teens with institutionalized hatred against the older generation. Will end well

You mean YouTube (and social media in general)?

If so, you can expand it to hating those younger than themselves, hating the opposite gender, and hating each other

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by JKCalhoun »

non- wrote: post #29

Teens are old enough to find their way around any content bans. This seems like a good way to introduce teens to VPN's and skirting content regulations early. It's also dumb because YouTube can teach you almost anything, I'd say it's the "best of the worst" when it comes to social media on the internet.

> "best of the worst"

Such a low bar.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by wewewedxfgdf »

The Australian Prime Minister - Anthony Albanese - was once asked by a radio host what he would do if he was dictator - he said he would ban all social media.

And lets note that the ALP government is very fast and snappy to ban social media, very slow to do important things like:

- ban money laundering in real estate

- ban gambling advertising

And very quick to:

- approve massive new coal mines

- approve massive new natural gas projects

The Australian government hates social media because that's where the people get to say what they think of the governmnent - in real time.

The social media companies have missed a crucial point about doing business in Australia - you must be paying your dues to the political parties and you must be paying big taxes. This is what the mining and gambling and fosil fuel companies do, and the Australian government does backflips to give them what they want.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by hasperdi »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #65
simpaticoder wrote: post #8

Completely banning all of YouTube feels like throwing out the baby—valuable educational content—with the bathwater—everything else. It seems more effective for YouTube to offer a dedicated educational platform, like education.youtube.com, with content filters built in. That way, students could access channels like 3blue1brown without exposure to unrelated or less appropriate content like MrBeast or Jubilee. Heck, I m…

My thought was that a version of YouTube that: 1. Had no opaque algorithmic feeds 2. No comment sections 3. Have a "show me more content like this" button, but again, no auto algorithmic feeds 4. Filter out age inappropriate content. would be great for teenagers. I think the problem for YouTube is that it would be great for everyone else, too, so they'd get bombarded by "Hey, I want that version" requests, which woul…

This exists. It's called YouTube Kids

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by JKCalhoun »

forgotoldacc wrote: post #46

A couple months ago, I saw people everywhere online (including HN) saying they love the idea of social media bans for kids. They love the idea of keeping people under 18 safe from the dangers of porn and mature games and other unclean things as well. Now governments around the world are acting in unison to happily give those people what they want, and people are suddenly confused and pissed that these laws mean you n…

> People who asked for social media bans for kids got what they wanted. They'll have to live with the consequences for the rest of their lives. We all will.

I guess I'm fine with not visiting any of these age-restricted sites. They're not the thing I would miss if the whole internet shut down. (In fact, there's precious little I would miss — maybe just archive.org?)

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by qualeed »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #44
qualeed wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is not the only channel of value on YouTube. Not all of them have a website with their content available.

Can you spell out the standard plainly?

The standard of what?
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