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Sleep all comes down to the mitochondria

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Re: Sleep all comes down to the mitochondria

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Something I thought was just an internet tale: mitochondria are close descendants of bacteria, and so taking antibiotics will potentially harm them. But turns out this is actually rooted in science ...

It's specifically Quinolones which can harm mitochondria. There's no ongoing concern for something like Penicillin. We also shouldn't expect there to be mitochondrial risk from a fungi-derived chemical like Penicillin, since fungi also have mitochondria. In general you want the weakest and most targeted antibiotic for the job. Most people will never need a Quinolone, and you should be skeptical whenever sophisticated…

> Most people will never need a Quinolone

At least in Germany eye doctors are very happy to prescribe them. It's "only" eye drops, but it is (for laymen) almost impossible to find information if they are also dangerous in this form.

Re: Sleep all comes down to the mitochondria

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I wonder how this relates to sleep apnea, as in that state you sleep more the less oxygen you get. By the way, many people who don't think they have it yet feel tired during the day or simply feel like they need more sleep should get tested for it, as it's not just a problem for the obese.

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I am just going to reply to this comment instead of going through each of yours. You are saying a lot about "Tact" but have yet to actually propose an alternative to how the OP said what they said.

It is fairly common that because someone is not in a traditionally higher risk group for a common thing that they don't get tested for it, even if they have certain symptoms. This is the case both personally and doctors make this mistake as well.

Pointing out that people that do not fall within the group that is traditionally associated with sleep apnea should likely get tested if they show certain symptoms is valid as is mentioning that group. It is a fairly basic health PSA.

So if you are going to keep complaining about "Tact" than offer your own alternative about how to relay this information. And omitting "obese" is not actually helping anyone.

Re: Sleep all comes down to the mitochondria

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>You're never going to get anywhere with *gestures broadly*... this. Very self-aggrandizing, very 2016, very devoid of tact. Also, fat people have a 5-10x rate of sleep apnea over someone of a normal, healthy weight. Being fat is bad for you. That is not a "stigma", it's just factually true. You don't have to dress it up as something sexy, because being fat is neither healthy nor sexy.

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I'm obese, have sleep apnea, and can't find any statement that I would consider lacking tact in OP's comments.

Yours on the other hand, I find plenty.

Re: Sleep all comes down to the mitochondria

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post #85
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There definitely was never a life form which exclusively slept - all the critical parts of life require being awake. Life that didn't sleep, however, is possible.

Maybe not 'exclusively' slept, but koalas[1] sleep for a majority of the day (16-20 hours) in order to digest highly toxic eucalyptus leaves which constitute the main portion of their diet. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koala

Fascinating. I wonder whether they'd sleep less if fed a less toxic, more easily digestible diet.

Re: Sleep all comes down to the mitochondria

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post #21

Given its role in energy transfer, does this suggest creatine might be a good supplement for improving sleep?

My sleep gets worse when I take creatine, so maybe it doesn't improve sleep, but rather helps mitochondria to get by without sleep?
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