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Stop selling “unlimited”, when you mean “until we change our minds”

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Re: Stop selling “unlimited”, when you mean “until we change our minds”

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Post by conartist6 »

Kim_Bruning wrote: post #64
conartist6 wrote: post #32

"I firmly believe that AI will not replace developers, but a developer using AI will replace a developer who does not." Ugh, anyone who says that and really believes it can no longer see common sense through the hype goggles. It's just stupid and completely 100% wrong, like saying all musicians will use autotune in the future because it makes the music better. It's the same as betting that there will be no new invent…

A surprisingly large number of musicians do use things like written music (a medieval invention, but came into its own in the renaissance) or amplifiers (a modern one).

Sure but that's different than saying "if you don't use those things you are worthless and will fail"

Re: Stop selling “unlimited”, when you mean “until we change our minds”

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Post by celticninja »

oellegaard wrote: post #18

There is no such thing as unlimited. Everything is subject to fair use and it seems they are now communicating those limits clearly.

they are communicating the limit exists clearly, they are not `communicating those limits clearly`

Re: Stop selling “unlimited”, when you mean “until we change our minds”

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Post by thimabi »

apwell23 wrote: post #14

anthropic is blaming its users "we wouldn't have to do this if you guys weren't so naughty. No TV for you. "

That’s just typical for any company that promises unlimited usage and then can’t deliver. The sad truth is that the “unlimited” wording attracts tons of users who will never come close to being a power user making a dent in their profits.

Re: Stop selling “unlimited”, when you mean “until we change our minds”

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Post by kqr »

dcminter wrote: post #39
TrackerFF wrote: post #23

When you offer "unlimited", you're immediately exposing yourself to the 0.1% of userbase that will absolutely treat it is unlimited. Whale users/hoarders. This has been a known problem since the dawn of hosting...hell, it goes back to times before computers. One thing I miss for the other users, i.e. the casual users that never use anywhere near of their quota, is rollover. If you haven't used your quota this month,…

One does find it occasionally. My mobile phone plan (in Sweden) currently says that I have 774G left of my 25G/month quota for example :)

One might wonder why you pay for a plan with 25 GB/mo when you use so little that you have over 2.5 years of it saved!

I thought I had a low usage with my 1.5 years' worth saved. Only reason I paysfor that plan is anything lower and my provider does not offer rollover.

Re: Stop selling “unlimited”, when you mean “until we change our minds”

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Post by IncreasePosts »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #21
IlikeKitties wrote: post #5

If a company promises "unlimited" I usually don't believe them with very very few exceptions such as unlimited internet on a home internet.

not sure if this is a joke, but most home internet plans get throttled after some secret limit.

That still sounds unlimited, just like there's a natural limit when you're unthrottled.

Re: Stop selling “unlimited”, when you mean “until we change our minds”

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Post by SirFatty »

TrackerFF wrote: post #23

When you offer "unlimited", you're immediately exposing yourself to the 0.1% of userbase that will absolutely treat it is unlimited. Whale users/hoarders. This has been a known problem since the dawn of hosting...hell, it goes back to times before computers. One thing I miss for the other users, i.e. the casual users that never use anywhere near of their quota, is rollover. If you haven't used your quota this month,…

Like the unlimited meal pass at Six Flags.. https://www.vice.com/en/article/meet-the-guy-whos-finessing-...

Or the American Airlines lifetime pass.. https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/american-airlines-unlimit...

Re: Stop selling “unlimited”, when you mean “until we change our minds”

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Post by catmanjan »

aeon_ai wrote: post #69
conartist6 wrote: post #32

"I firmly believe that AI will not replace developers, but a developer using AI will replace a developer who does not." Ugh, anyone who says that and really believes it can no longer see common sense through the hype goggles. It's just stupid and completely 100% wrong, like saying all musicians will use autotune in the future because it makes the music better. It's the same as betting that there will be no new invent…

AI isn't a stylistic preference or minor enhancement, but cognitive augmentation that allows developers to navigate complexity at scales human cognition wasn't designed for. Just as the developer who refused to adopt version control, IDEs, or Stack Overflow eventually became unemployable , those who reject tools that fundamentally expand their problem-solving capacity will find themselves unable to compete with those…

Maybe somehow this will be true in the future, but I am finding that as soon as you work on a novel or undocumented or non internet available problem it is just a hallucinating junior dev

Re: Stop selling “unlimited”, when you mean “until we change our minds”

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Post by Ekaros »

I wonder what is the ratio of people who feel like they have to cap any offering they get? That is if you promise them say 1TB of cloud storage, they will fill that with anything, just to feel like they got moneys worth.

And how does this compare to case with "Unlimited". Overall will the total used be higher or lower?

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