No thanks
I mean, you can say that, but the unelected will decide for us. Oh when it was just for "easier international trade". What a good one.
The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025
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#12Re: The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025
#13> Fast-forward to February 2025, Poland tried to find a better compromise by making the scanning of encrypted chats voluntary instead of mandatory and classified as "prevention." Okay hear me out, for public or semi public chats, having a tool to force content scans to prevent people randomly posting csam into the channel might be an idea worth considering. Ask any Matrix Admin about that issue...
You know, I've been on the Internet 20+ years and have been to some shady corners of it... but nowhere seems to have such a CSAM problem as Matrix and its friends apparently do. Why would that be?
> but nowhere seems to have such a CSAM problem as Matrix
Well Tor, i2p, freenet etc. are mostly csam anyway
Re: The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025
#14The EU has always been 90 days from passing mass surveliance for the last decade. Until member states start actually backing this these articles are nothing but click bait.
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#15I just don't get it - criminals will just continue to use "real" encryption. Why are some of these people so obsessed with reading everyone's chats?
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#16On one hand it is a terrible proposal that deserves exposure to generate pushback.
On the other hand it is still just a proposal, of which there are many (stupid ones) which never see the light of day. This still needs to pass the European Parliament (which is generally opposed to this, not in the least because it is very unpopular under EU citizens). Even then the chances of it surviving a challenge in the courts (of which there will be many) are tiny.
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#17Re: The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025
#18I just don't get it - criminals will just continue to use "real" encryption. Why are some of these people so obsessed with reading everyone's chats?
> Why are some of these people so obsessed with reading everyone's chats?
Having worked with some of the people in law enforcement heavily pushing this, it generally does come from child safety concerns and the overwhelming amount of CSAM sent via encrypted means.
Personally, I don't believe that it will ever be restricted to serious crimes and the potential for abuse is infinite, so I don't believe it is justifiable, but child sexual abuse is a real and enormous problem that causes untold harm and suffering, so we have to find a balance.
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#19I just don't get it - criminals will just continue to use "real" encryption. Why are some of these people so obsessed with reading everyone's chats?
Also something something children something terrorism something something safety, whatever makes the uninformed public feel like this is something that'll benefit them.
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#20Maybe they can lead by example and show us the chats from Ursula first...