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‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by insane_dreamer »

ars wrote: post #432
insane_dreamer wrote: post #404

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> way way way, worse that Gaza are going on right now Yeah, all those three are bad; Sudan in particular. I wouldn't say Yemen and Syria are worse than Gaza. > You seem to only care about Israel. The reason I'm screaming about Israel is especially because we (the US) are aiding and abetting it. If we were funding Sudanese rebels the way we're funding the IDF, and welcoming their generals to the White House like we do…

> we (the US) are aiding and abetting it So because you think the US is involved, that's why the UN (which is not the US) should send peacekeepers?

yeah, the bit I wrote about the UN peacekeepers was offhand and inaccurate; the US imposes sanctions or invades

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Post by JamesAdir »

imchillyb wrote: post #287

Removal of occupants from West Bank and Gaza, completely, was always the overall goal here. Israel doesn't seem to care overly much how this occurs, but they're making it happen. The goal is almost reached. There will be no Palestine. Egypt doesn't want the refugees. Jordan doesn't want the refugees. Qatar doesn't want the refugees. UAE doesn't want the refugees. Syria doesn't want the refugees. Lebanon doesn't want…

Can you point out to any action about the removal of West Bank arabs? There are an estimation of 2.5-3 million arabs there. There is actually a country for these people and this is Jordan. Since in '48 the arabs didn't accept the two state solution then, they are forced to live in a country which is not for them.

Also, could you please point out where are they refugees from? '48 is 77 years ago, how is the 2nd and 3rd generation are still refugees? There are no other people in the world who claim to be refugees in the 2nd and 3rd generation.

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Post by ainiriand »

Cyph0n wrote: post #296
elihu wrote: post #231

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I think the thing that should have been a clear unambiguous sign (if nothing up to then were convincing enough) that Israel's intentions weren't just to defeat Hamas but cause severe harm to the civilian population of Gaza was when they blocked all food and aid into Gaza for months. I mean, why would you do that unless you want people to die? Even the stated explanation that they wanted to deprive Hamas of the abilit…

The intention was clearly communicated from day 1. But Western governments willingly decided to provide diplomatic cover & military support - some to this very day - with the backing of the Western media apparatus.

Not the spanish government at least, now we are horrible aparently.

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Post by jraby3 »

FireBeyond wrote: post #571
zdragnar wrote: post #354

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Capturing soldiers, sure, but that's not what happened. The whole point of capturing soldiers is to keep them from returning to the field. You deny the other side fighters. Hamas raped, murdered and kidnapped civilians.

There are hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilian "administrative detainees" who would love to know why you're not as concerned about them being held.

Link to show hundreds of thousands of detainees in Israel?

That seems like a massive exaggeration.

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Post by flyinglizard »

literatepeople wrote: post #329
unwise-exe wrote: post #324

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Israel's response was obvious as soon as the attack happened. "Oh, looks like they've got that excuse they've been wanting."

It's hard to describe to people who don't have family there, but this exactly. The goal is similar to American "manifest destiny". They want to, through whatever means necessary, displace (at best) the existing Palestinian population and take their land.

Israelis voted in a government 20 years ago just to pull out from Gaza and give them their autonomy (which Gazans used to swiftly vote in Hamas, and that was the single and last time they had elections since). Saying Israel was interested in that land is disingenuous.

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Post by scotty79 »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #557
zetazzed wrote: post #220

I see an increasing number of politicians taking the position: "I supported Israel's government's actions when they first attacked, given the goals of destroying Hamas' leadership and freeing hostages, but now that it has turned into a brutal siege with mass civilian casualties on a horrific scale, I'm strongly against their actions." E.g. Macron, Angus King, and many people I know personally. And I think we need to…

Israel has been an apartheid state for decades. This has nothing to do with Hamas. Anyone who is "changing their mind" now, hasn't - it's merely no longer socially acceptable to support naked indiscriminate brutality.

How can it be apartheid state with 1/5th of its population being non-Jewish and having strong anti-discrimination laws? They don't count people living in Gaza and West-Bank who want and/or try to kill them as their own and why would they? What "being apartheid state" even means?

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Post by dang »

edsammy wrote: post #537

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I tried to address this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44718396. If you read that and some of the links there and still want more information, I'd be happy to try.

On the other hand, if you just feel like this isn't the site you want HN to be, I hear that and, yeah, sorry. It's kind of been this way since forever (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869).

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Post by yieldcrv »

YZF wrote: post #427
ivape wrote: post #347

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You're confusing hatred for Palestinians with hatred for Gazans. Most Israelis do not hate Palestinians. There might be some. There's definitely a lot of hate to Gazans after Oct 7th which is understandable. As to the "what are we supposed to do" part- What are they supposed to do? How would you navigate this better after Oct 7th given the setup/hostages etc.? Israel has officially said many times they are not target…

> What are they supposed to do? How would you navigate this better after Oct 7th given the setup/hostages etc.?

The real answer is 19th century warfare in the tunnels where all of Israel's tactical advantages disappeared.

But instead they cowardly ordered 2,000 lb bombs that didn't accomplish any of their stated goals and killed their own hostages. Instead they designated everyone in Gaza as a terrorist and killed their own hostages when they managed to escape because everyone has the same Semitic phenotypes (awwwwkwaaaard). Instead they put their freshman IDF conscripts on social media to claim any dissent of the military strategy was incitement against Jewish people's right to exist. On the social media front, I'm not sure what's more embarrassing, getting paid to do that, or not getting paid to do that.

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YZF wrote: post #427
ivape wrote: post #347

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You're confusing hatred for Palestinians with hatred for Gazans. Most Israelis do not hate Palestinians. There might be some. There's definitely a lot of hate to Gazans after Oct 7th which is understandable. As to the "what are we supposed to do" part- What are they supposed to do? How would you navigate this better after Oct 7th given the setup/hostages etc.? Israel has officially said many times they are not target…

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