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Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by lerchmo »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #88

I'm probably not going to hit the weekly limit, but it makes me nervous that the limit is weekly as opposed to every 36 hours or something. If I do hit the limit, that's it for the entire week —a long time to be without a tool I've grown accustomed to! I feel like someone is going to reply that I'm too reliant on Claude or something. Maybe that's true, but I'd feel the same about the prospect of loosing ripgrep for a…

Time to start using Claude code proxy and other models. This black box rate limit is really lame.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by brookst »

landl0rd wrote: post #357
el_benhameen wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how I feel about the 100 msg/wk limit on o3 for the ChatGPT plus plan. There’s no way to see how much I’ve used, and it’s an important enough resource that my lizard brain wants to hoard it. The result is that I way underutilize my plan and go for one of the o4-mini models instead. I would much prefer a lower daily limit, but maybe the underutilization is the point of the weekly limit. *edited to change “pro”…

You can tell how it’s intentional with both OpenAI and Anthropic by how they’re intentionally made opaque. I cant see a nice little bar with how much I’ve used versus have left on the given rate limits so it’s pressuring users to hoard. Because it prevents them from budgeting it out and saying “okay I’ve used 1/3 of my quota and it’s Wednesday, I can use more faster.”

I think the simple product prioritization explanation makes way more sense than a a second-order conspiracy to trick people into hoarding.

Reality is probably that there’s a backlog item to implement a view, but it’s hard to prioritize over core features.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by neutrinobro »

This was bound to happen at some point, but probably net-on-net won't affect most users. I think it's pretty useful for a variety of tasks, but those tend to fall into a rather narrow category (boilerplate, simple UI change requests, simple doc-strings/summaries), and there is only so much of that work which is required in a month. I certainly won't be cancelling my plan over this change, but so far I also haven't seen a reason to increase it over the hobbyist-style $20/mo plan. When I do run into usage limits, its usually already at the end of the day, or I just pivot to another task where it isn't helpful.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

Aurornis wrote: post #231
alwillis wrote: post #175

From Anthropic’s Reddit account: One user consumed tens of thousands in model usage on a $200 plan. Though we're developing solutions for these advanced use cases, our new rate limits will ensure a more equitable experience for all users while also preventing policy violations like account sharing and reselling access. This is why we can’t have nice things.

I worked at a startup that offered an unlimited option. It's amazing how fast you go from thinking nobody could ever use that much of your service to discovering how many of your users are creatively abusing the service. Accounts will start using your service 24/7 with their request rating coming at 95% of your rate limiter setting. They're accessing it from a diverse set of IPs. Depending on the type of service and…

If you launch your service without knowing how much it costs to offer your service at the maximum rate it could be used, then this will definitely happen. Engineering directors need to require performance testing benchmarks and do the math to figure out where the ceiling is. If you happen to be "lucky" enough to scale very fast, you don't want to then bang your customer's heads repeatedly on a ceiling.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by MuffinFlavored »

andruby wrote: post #36
jimbo808 wrote: post #22

I'm not sure how this will play out long term, but I really am not a fan of having to feel like I'm using a limited resource whenever I use an LLM. People like unlimited plans, we are used to them for internet, text messaging, etc. The current pricing models just feel bad.

Unlimited works well for everything that is “too cheap to meter”. Internet, text messages, etc are roughly that: the direct costs are so cheap. That’s not the case with LLM’s at this moment. There are significant direct costs to each long-running agent.

> That’s not the case with LLM’s at this moment.

I'd be curious to know how many tokens the average $200/mo user uses and what the cost on their end for it is.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by hoppp »

sneak wrote: post #414
forty wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It makes me sad that devs start relying on proprietary online services to be able to work. We have been lucky enough to have FOSS tools to do everything and not to have to rely on any specific service or company to work and some of us are deciding to become like Monsanto-addicted farmers who forgot how to do their jobs without something they have to pay every month.

We can and did work without it. It just makes us many times faster. Nothing about using an LLM removes skills and abilities you already had before it.

My experience was that reviewing generated code can take longer than writing it from scratch.

There was research about vibe coding that had similar conclusion. Feels productive but can take longer to review.

the moment you generate code you don't instantly understand you are better off reading the docs and writing it yourself

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by brookst »

forty wrote: post #362
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #88

I'm probably not going to hit the weekly limit, but it makes me nervous that the limit is weekly as opposed to every 36 hours or something. If I do hit the limit, that's it for the entire week —a long time to be without a tool I've grown accustomed to! I feel like someone is going to reply that I'm too reliant on Claude or something. Maybe that's true, but I'd feel the same about the prospect of loosing ripgrep for a…

It makes me sad that devs start relying on proprietary online services to be able to work. We have been lucky enough to have FOSS tools to do everything and not to have to rely on any specific service or company to work and some of us are deciding to become like Monsanto-addicted farmers who forgot how to do their jobs without something they have to pay every month.

I remember being beholden to commercial (cough, pirated, cough) compilers and assemblers back in the day. FOSS is awesome but often lags because capital sees a chance to make money and can move faster.

It will change. There will be FOSS models, once it no longer takes hundreds of millions of dollars to train them.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by brookst »

umbra07 wrote: post #452
sneak wrote: post #414

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We can and did work without it. It just makes us many times faster. Nothing about using an LLM removes skills and abilities you already had before it.

If you don't use a skill, it atrophies. Now, maybe that is the future (no more/extremely little human-written code). Maybe that's a good thing in the same way that " x technological advancement means y skill is no longer necessary" - like how the advent of readily-accessible live maps means you don't need to memorize street intersections and directions or whatever. But it is true.

I am terrible at computing sine and cosine, for sure. It doesn’t bother me.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by jeswin »

I am a Max 20x subscriber, and I'm not unhappy that Anthropic is putting this in place.

Claude is vital to me and I want it to be a sustainable business. I won't hit these limits myself, and I'm saving many times what I would have spent in API costs - easily among the best money I've ever spent.

I'm middle aged, spending significant time on a hobby project which may or may not have commercial goals (undecided). It required long hours even with AI, but with Claude Code I am spending more time with family and in sports. If anyone from Anthropic is reading this, I wanted to say thanks.

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