I just write a follow up post:
The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign
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Re: The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign
#182> There is no shared protocol for identity, no agreed standard for portable, user-owned data, no common infrastructure for composable interaction. I've heard this idea in several forms, and it's not what I think most people want. I don't want to live in a world where everything is trackable to a stable identity. Since the stable identity is ultimately trackable to your socual security number, this is essentially a wo…
https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2025/06/28/zkid.html
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Re: The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign
#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I choose a "community server", how does that differ from just using the Instagram "server" by using Instagram itself? Can't the community server ban me, or delete some of my data they don't like, for example? Or even sell my data?
> how does that differ from just using the Instagram "server" 1. You can move to another server if you don't like their rules, or to your own server. There is a competition between servers (and self-hosting!) making the network better for everyone. 2. There is no single point of failure for the whole network. Hackers and governments love single points of failure. 3. There's nobody who would forbid alternative clients…
> There is a competition between servers
Why? What do they gain by hosting our accounts?
Re: The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign
#184Server said: Can not proxy to upstream target: http://127.0.0.1:28421
Re: The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
> how does that differ from just using the Instagram "server" 1. You can move to another server if you don't like their rules, or to your own server. There is a competition between servers (and self-hosting!) making the network better for everyone. 2. There is no single point of failure for the whole network. Hackers and governments love single points of failure. 3. There's nobody who would forbid alternative clients…
> There is a competition between servers Why? What do they gain by hosting our accounts?
Why do they exist in the first place? Some of them can and do take money for the service. Some are volunteers who want to help users and support federation. Some are run by non-profits or companies as self-promotion.
Re: The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
These are all solved problems depending on what someone is after. Tools like tailscale/headscale combined with proxmox give most people point and click self hosting close to using a digital ocean droplet (which should never be used in production).
Tailscale + Proxmox is still an order of magnitude more difficult than this is going to need to be.
One can follow a video in about an hour maybe two and be up and have the basics down with proxmox.
Of course, if someone wants to figure out perfection the first time it might take a bit longer.
Re: The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign
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Its really complicated but I will try to sum it up. Basically nano cryptocurrency has no gas fees so if you can get even 10^-30 nano, you can technically do unlimited transactions forever (there is some caveat) You can get such nano from faucets and then you have basically an eternal source of doing transactions. What are transactions? Transactions are a way of sending money from A public key to B public key Now what…
Thanks for sharing this. The method of encoding data through a looping chain of transactions between vanity addresses is particularly clever. Truly a innovative idea. Hope to see more practical applications emerge. Please keep us updated should it unfold in the future.
Thanks a lot, well here are some practical applications I can think of personally:
Uncensored forum app (though would be insanely slow and I personally feel like it might lead to some nefarious activities and I was thinking of creating it but I didn't want to be linked to it)
Multi crypto payment while having the same address: we add all crypto addresses into nano chain itself and so then anybody can pay to anybody else in all the crypto address data of different blockchains like eth, polygon , (bitcoin?) , monero without requiring multiple addresses, a single address is enough.
Proving of data (nanotimestamps) could be useful to create a decentralized way of "seeding" other people's data while still knowing that its tamper free using bao (incremental streaming)
so this could theoretically be used for lets say download of archlinux iso without using bittorrent and without trusting any middle man or even hashing yourself. So it can sort of link download links into addresses too.
I was thinking of a social media where such thing could be used and so the underlying stack could be changed to whatever and you can move away just like in did but the did server would actually be a 60 node (nano has 60 nodes from various amount of people so more decentralized and anyone can host their own node too)
All while doing any of this, we can guarantee sort of something like nostr too in the sense that payments can be built in (not sure if its good or bad but its still a feature)
I must admit though, I am just in high school and honestly it made my day thinking that people think what I created to be innovative since I will admit, the code sucks really bad and AI slop but the idea is the one thing I am proud of. Truly an eureka moment I must admit.
I want to be honest, I may have created this idea but its hard for me to monetize it given the decentralized nature. If someone has some more ideas feel free to list it.
Should I create my own blog post about it?
I personally want to work on this project too, get some practical applications but just have no incentive really sadly. I also don't want to generate too much hype on it as if its something revolutionary since only time will tell.
I may sound cheesy but if someone interested in crypto is seriously impressed, please just mail me and I guess fund me for this project and give me ideas on monetization.
Honestly I don't know, I don't want a lot of money. I just want enough money to work on things I like without dreading about studies/college/job cycle.
https://github.com/SerJaimeLannister/randomnano Not sure why I named it randomnano but naming has always been difficult for me..
Re: The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign
#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
Its really complicated but I will try to sum it up. Basically nano cryptocurrency has no gas fees so if you can get even 10^-30 nano, you can technically do unlimited transactions forever (there is some caveat) You can get such nano from faucets and then you have basically an eternal source of doing transactions. What are transactions? Transactions are a way of sending money from A public key to B public key Now what…
This does sound interesting and very much show HN level. Do you have any shareable github/page where you discuss the idea in more detail?
Lurking in HN, this might be one of the highest compliments out there. So thanks, I appreciate it.
I have created a whole video about it actually too! it was part of some coding competition to explain software that I took part in.
I must admit, I was just babbling since I didn't knew too much of the code but just the higher basics so it would be a little tough watching a video so you might need to hold tight!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChyJALOsSmY
Here's the repo https://github.com/SerJaimeLannister/randomnano
I had created a blog post too iirc, I will create it again this time explaining it better since I think there is some reignited interest in it.
Re: The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign
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So if I follow 1000 people, I make 1000 requests every time I open the app or refresh my feed? Also not everyone can be on a stable connection with a public IP address with good upload speeds 7/24. In the ideal world: sure. In the real world: impossible (at least for any foreseeable near future).
This has all been solved with ActivityPub or AT Protocol. It's push-based not pull and yes there are still servers. Either you pay for your own server or you mooch on a community server.
Oh, missed that. Then it makes sense, thank you.