Okay, no where it's mentioned which IDE is talked about. https://www.trae.ai/ OR https://traeide.com/ Would be sad if wrong one is murdered.
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Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork
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#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah but this is industry standard not saying this is good but everyone do this
It's industry standard for porn stars to get fucked on camera. But I'm not a porn star, and I don't want to be fucked on camera. Handwaving away this abuse of privacy by saying "everyone does it because it makes money" is a gross justification.
Then why are you in a porn movie?
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
same reason you apply at porn stars analogy no one force you to use these tools, you can use another tools that suit your needs if you read terms of service and privacy policy then you agree to it because you use it then company have right too
https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php/EULA_roofie
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#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's industry standard for porn stars to get fucked on camera. But I'm not a porn star, and I don't want to be fucked on camera. Handwaving away this abuse of privacy by saying "everyone does it because it makes money" is a gross justification.
same reason you apply at porn stars analogy no one force you to use these tools, you can use another tools that suit your needs if you read terms of service and privacy policy then you agree to it because you use it then company have right too
No one is forcing anyone to use Trae.
But the telemetry settings not working and the actions of the Trae moderators to quash any discussion of the telemetry is extremely concerning. People should be able to make informed decisions about the programs they are using, and the Trae developers don't seem to agree.
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#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The software you use gets bugs fixed much faster since you get statistics that some bugs have higher impact than others. Try talking to your users instead. > The more users software has, less skills they have in average to accurately report any issues. No amount of telemetry will solve that.
The PowerShell team at Microsoft added opt-out telemetry to track when it was launched so they could make the case internally that they should get more funding, and have more internal clout. It’s easy to argue that if you are a PowerShell user or developer you benefit from no telemetry, but it’s hard to argue that you benefit from the tool you use being sidelined or defunded because corporate thinks nobody uses it. “…
> it’s hard to argue that you benefit from the tool you use being sidelined or defunded because corporate thinks nobody uses it.
Let the corporation suffer then. With an open API, a third party will make a better one. Microsoft can buy that; corporations have a habit of doing that.
> “Talk to your users” doesn’t solve this because there are millions of computers running scripts
Why are you worried about the problems that scripts face? If the developer encounters issues in scripts, the developer can work to fix it. Sometimes that might mean filing a bug report... or a feature request for better documentation. Or the developer might get frustrated and use something better. Like bash.
> there are millions of computers running scripts and no way to know who they are or contact them
Why do they matter to you, or a corporation then?
> they would not remember how often they launched it.
If your users aren't interacting with you for feature requests and bug reports, then either you don't have users or you don't have good enough reachability from the users to you.
Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork
#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's industry standard for porn stars to get fucked on camera. But I'm not a porn star, and I don't want to be fucked on camera. Handwaving away this abuse of privacy by saying "everyone does it because it makes money" is a gross justification.
Then why are you in a porn movie?
To further the analogy, sex may be an industry, but not everyone who participates does so comercially. Some who do so comercially may not want to be filmed.
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#287Am i the only one that finds System Information: Hardware specs, OS details, architecture Usage Patterns: Active time, session duration, feature usage Performance Metrics: Response times, resource consumption Unique Identifiers: Machine ID, user ID, device fingerprints Workspace Details: Project information, file paths (obfuscated) Not to really bad that obtrusive? Like i don't really see anything there that i'd be o…
I don't want any program on my computer including the OS to make any network calls whatsoever unless they're directly associated with executing GUI/CLI interactions I have currently undertaken as the user. Any exception should be opt-in. IMHO the entire Overton window of these remote communications is in the wrong place.
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Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork
#288Great work, glad to read about it in the Discord before u posted it here.
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#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
DNS over https depends on the ability to resolve the DoH hostname via DNS, which is blockable via PiHole, or depend on a set of static IPs, which can be blocked by your favorite firewall.
A sufficiently spiteful app could host a DoH resolver/proxy on the same server as its api server (eg. api.example.com/dns-query), which would make it impossible for you to override DNS settings for the app without breaking the app itself.
or it wouldn't even need to use any sort of dns. bit of a silly discussion.
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#290Honestly great to see this. This is the power that FB/Microsoft/Google have if they ever decided to take the gloves off. Maybe this will be the motivating factor to get some privacy laws with fangs.
If you continue to send telemetry after I explicitly opt-out, then I get to sue (or atleast get a cut of the fines for whistleblowing)