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Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Why do people use obvious spyware when free software exists?

Yes, why do people use products from Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon, ...

> Yes, why do people use products from Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon, ...

I work at Apple, so I’m not concerned about being monitored—it’s all company-owned equipment and data anyway.

It was the same when I worked at Microsoft. I used Microsoft products exclusively, regardless of any potential privacy concerns.

Employees at Google and Amazon do the same. It’s known as “dogfooding”—using your own products to test and improve them (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food).

As for why people outside these companies use their products, it usually comes down to two reasons: a) Their employer has purchased licenses and wants employees to use them, either for compliance or to get value from the investment; or b) They genuinely like the product—whether it’s because of its features, price, performance, support, or overall experience.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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> might be good to mention that for transparency, because people can tell anyway and it might feel slightly otherwise Devil's advocate: why does it matter (apart from "it feels wrong")? As long as the conclusions are sound, why is it relevant whether AI helped with the writing of the report?

> As long as the conclusions are sound I can't decide to read something because the conclusions are sound. I have to read the entire thing to find out if the conclusions are sound. What's more, if it's an LLM, it's going to try its gradient-following best to make unsound reasoning seem sound. I have to be an expert to tell that it is a moron. I can't put that kind of work into every piece of worthless slop on the int…

I want this to be the plot of bladerunner - deckard must hunt down errant replicants before they completely go insane due to context limits

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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I don't want any program on my computer including the OS to make any network calls whatsoever unless they're directly associated with executing GUI/CLI interactions I have currently undertaken as the user. Any exception should be opt-in. IMHO the entire Overton window of these remote communications is in the wrong place.

Yeah but this is industry standard not saying this is good but everyone do this

It's industry standard for porn stars to get fucked on camera. But I'm not a porn star, and I don't want to be fucked on camera.

Handwaving away this abuse of privacy by saying "everyone does it because it makes money" is a gross justification.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

#274

Am i the only one that finds System Information: Hardware specs, OS details, architecture Usage Patterns: Active time, session duration, feature usage Performance Metrics: Response times, resource consumption Unique Identifiers: Machine ID, user ID, device fingerprints Workspace Details: Project information, file paths (obfuscated) Not to really bad that obtrusive? Like i don't really see anything there that i'd be o…

I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic, but I honestly don't think how it could possibly get any more intrusive without directly uploading files.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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VSCode is extremely unsafe and you should only use it in a managed, corporate environment where breaches aren't your problem. This goes with any fork, as well.

Unsafe because of telemetry or unsafe because of the plugin ecosystem?

Plugins and architecture

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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I always want the choice to be mine. I was interested in learning Dart until the installer told me Google would be collecting telemetry. For a programming language. I’ve never looked at it again.

It can be disabled btw. And no telemetry is collected on first run. I keep it disabled for both Dart and Flutter.

Maybe someday I’ll give it a shot, but it’s hard to undo the damage from a terrible first impression like that.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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VSCode is extremely unsafe and you should only use it in a managed, corporate environment where breaches aren't your problem. This goes with any fork, as well.

If you signed a Nondisclosure agreement with your employer, and you use—without approval—a tool that sends telemetry, you may be liable for a breach of the NDA.

Exactly, which is why you're using the tools provided for you in a managed corporate environment. :/

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Yeah but this is industry standard not saying this is good but everyone do this

It's industry standard for porn stars to get fucked on camera. But I'm not a porn star, and I don't want to be fucked on camera. Handwaving away this abuse of privacy by saying "everyone does it because it makes money" is a gross justification.

same reason you apply at porn stars analogy

no one force you to use these tools, you can use another tools that suit your needs

if you read terms of service and privacy policy then you agree to it because you use it then company have right too

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's industry standard for porn stars to get fucked on camera. But I'm not a porn star, and I don't want to be fucked on camera. Handwaving away this abuse of privacy by saying "everyone does it because it makes money" is a gross justification.

same reason you apply at porn stars analogy no one force you to use these tools, you can use another tools that suit your needs if you read terms of service and privacy policy then you agree to it because you use it then company have right too

https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php/EULA_roofie
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