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Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Disabling telemetry might be interpreted as a self-indicated signal of "I have something to hide", so they jack up the snooping.

I suspect many (or all) VPNs probably do secret logging. People will do their most interesting secret activities on those.

Like Signal users. The only thing it signals is that the user is interesting. There is also a reason why it is not allowed for classified use.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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In my mind, the difference is that spying does or can contain PII, or PII can be inferred from it, where telemetry is incapable of being linked to an individual, to a reasonable extent.

Every single piece of telemetry sent over the internet includes PII - the IP address of the sender - by virtue of how our internet protocols are designed.

> includes PII - the IP address of the sender

Apple provides telemetry services that strips the IP before providing it to the app owners. Routing like this requires trust (just as a VPN does), but it's feasible.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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It is literally spying on the user. Unless you're somehow saying telemetry doesn't report anything about what a user is doing to it's home server.

Spying and telemetry is not something specific to Bytedance. Example: Google ? Or Microsoft ? Why is it a problem only when it is Bytedance or Huawei ? For the exact same activity In fact the Chinese entities are even less likely to share your secrets to your governement than their best friends at Google

No one in the chain of comments you are replying to has mentioned anything about Google, and on HackerNews you will find the majority sentiment is against spying in all forms - especially by Google, Meta, etc.

Even if we interact with your rhetoric[1] at face value, there is a big difference between data going to your own elected government versus that of a foreign adversary.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Great analysis, well done ! Since you've already done VSCode, Trae, Cursor, can you analyse Kiro (AWS fork). I'm curious about their data collection practices.

Anecdata but Kiro is much, much, much, much easier to put through corporate procurement compared to its peers. I'm talking days vs months.

This is not because it is better and I've seen no inclination that it would somehow be more private or secure, but most enterprises already share their proprietary data with AWS and have an agreement with AWS that their TAMs will gladly usher Kiro usage under.

Interesting to distinguish that privacy/security as it relates to individuals is taken at face value, while when it relates to corporations it is taken at disclosure value.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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There's also the Eclipse VScode-look-alike-reimplementation called TheiaIDE https://theia-ide.org/ It was rough a few years ago, but nowadays it's pretty nice. TI rebuilt their Code Composer Studio using Theia so it does have some larger users. It has LSP support and the same Monaco editor backend - which is all I need. It's VSCode-with-an-Eclipse-feel to it - which might or might not be your cup of tea, but it's an…

eclipse still is alive holy shit

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Why do people use obvious spyware when free software exists?

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> We need to bring back shaming and social isolation

HN is not your army, and it isn’t a theater of ideological battle.

Please don’t do that here.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect many (or all) VPNs probably do secret logging. People will do their most interesting secret activities on those.

Like Signal users. The only thing it signals is that the user is interesting. There is also a reason why it is not allowed for classified use.

This isn't true, this is the sort of toxic "if I have nothing to hide then why value privacy" ideology that got us into this privacy nightmare.

Every single person has "something to hide", and that's normal. It's normal to not want your messages snooped through. It doesn't mean you're a criminal, or even computer-saavy.

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