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Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by not_a_bot_4sho »

dijit wrote: post #67
max_ wrote: post #53

Why isn't there a decently done code editor with VSCode level features but none of the spyware garbage? Any recommendations? This seems like an easy win for a software project

Because someone has to fund it? Microsoft is content with funding it, the price is your telemetry (for now). For high quality development tools I use true FOSS; or I pay for my tools to avoid not knowing where the value is being extracted.

> Microsoft is content with funding it, the price is your telemetry (for now).

The price of VSCode is halo effect for Azure products

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by circuit10 »

benreesman wrote: post #11
segfault22 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, the core was written by me, i just used llm to fix my broken english.

Don't pay any attention to people giving you shit for using translation software. A lot of us sometimes forget that the whole world knows a little English and most of us native speakers have a ridiculous luxury in getting away with being two lazy to learn a few other languages.

I wasn't annoyed about it, I just said it might be good to mention because people will notice anyway, and at this point there's enough AI slop around that it can make people automatically ignore it so it would be good to explain that. I'm surprised I got downvotes and pushback for this, I thought it was a common view that it's good to disclose this kind of thing and I thought I was polite about it

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by cozzyd »

serf wrote: post #96
dotancohen wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emacs is great, sure, but it lacks a decent text editor.

proof of emacs excellence. what other software packages have 200 year old jokes about them?

Vi would, if the users could figure out how to quit out to save the jokes.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by barkingcat »

There's also the Eclipse VScode-look-alike-reimplementation called TheiaIDE

https://theia-ide.org/

It was rough a few years ago, but nowadays it's pretty nice. TI rebuilt their Code Composer Studio using Theia so it does have some larger users. It has LSP support and the same Monaco editor backend - which is all I need.

It's VSCode-with-an-Eclipse-feel to it - which might or might not be your cup of tea, but it's an alternative.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by viraptor »

max_ wrote: post #65
reaperducer wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why isn't there a decently done code editor with VSCode level features but none of the spyware garbage? Isn't that what VS Codium is for?

VSCodium I think was abandoned. It was extremely buggy last time I used it. Either way it uses electron. Which I hate so much.

It's not abandoned https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/commits/master/

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by lynndotpy »

benreesman wrote: post #11
segfault22 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, the core was written by me, i just used llm to fix my broken english.

Don't pay any attention to people giving you shit for using translation software. A lot of us sometimes forget that the whole world knows a little English and most of us native speakers have a ridiculous luxury in getting away with being two lazy to learn a few other languages.

It's disingenuous to call LLMs "translation software", and it's bad advice to say "don't pay attention those people".

Even if you don't agree with it, publishing AI generated content will exclude from ones audience the people who won't read AI generated content. It is a tradeoff one has to decide whether or not to make.

I'm sympathetic to someone who has to decide whether to publish in 'broken english' or to run it through the latest in grammar software. For my time, I far prefer the former (and have been consuming "broken english" for a long while, it's one of the beautiful things about the internet!)

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by orbital-decay »

dotancohen wrote: post #86
genghisjahn wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any other companies I should worry about for tracking?

Meta is pretty much number one, Google is pretty much number two. Whoever number three is, they are very far behind. For what it's worth, I do use Google products personally. But I won't go near Facebook, WhatsApp, or Instagram.

Microsoft is definitely not that far behind in scale. They own a ton of software and services that are used by basically everyone.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by jeffbee »

barkingcat wrote: post #105

There's also the Eclipse VScode-look-alike-reimplementation called TheiaIDE https://theia-ide.org/ It was rough a few years ago, but nowadays it's pretty nice. TI rebuilt their Code Composer Studio using Theia so it does have some larger users. It has LSP support and the same Monaco editor backend - which is all I need. It's VSCode-with-an-Eclipse-feel to it - which might or might not be your cup of tea, but it's an…

Google Cloud Shell is also Theia. I think it is fairly popular.
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