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Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by benreesman »

segfault22 wrote: post #6
circuit10 wrote: post #3

Is it just me or does the formatting of this feel like ChatGPT (numbered lists, "Key Takeaways", and just the general phrasing of things)? It's not necessarily an issue if you checked over it properly but if you did use it then it might be good to mention that for transparency, because people can tell anyway and it might feel slightly otherwise (or maybe you just have a similar writing style)

Yea, the core was written by me, i just used llm to fix my broken english.

Don't pay any attention to people giving you shit for using translation software. A lot of us sometimes forget that the whole world knows a little English and most of us native speakers have a ridiculous luxury in getting away with being two lazy to learn a few other languages.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by spullara »

refulgentis wrote: post #5
segfault22 wrote: post #2

Hi HN, I was evaluating IDEs for a personal project and decided to test Trae, ByteDance's fork of VSCode. I immediately noticed some significant performance and privacy issues that I felt were worth sharing. I've written up a full analysis with screenshots, network logs, and data payloads in the linked post. Here are the key findings: 1. Extreme Resource Consumption: Out of the box, Trae used 6.3x more RAM (~5.7 GB)…

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or maybe hn shouldn't have special formatting and support markdown

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by chrisnight »

marksomnian wrote: post #4
circuit10 wrote: post #3

Is it just me or does the formatting of this feel like ChatGPT (numbered lists, "Key Takeaways", and just the general phrasing of things)? It's not necessarily an issue if you checked over it properly but if you did use it then it might be good to mention that for transparency, because people can tell anyway and it might feel slightly otherwise (or maybe you just have a similar writing style)

> might be good to mention that for transparency, because people can tell anyway and it might feel slightly otherwise Devil's advocate: why does it matter (apart from "it feels wrong")? As long as the conclusions are sound, why is it relevant whether AI helped with the writing of the report?

It is relevant because it wastes time and adds nothing of substance. An AI can only output as much information as was inputted into it. Using it to write a text then just makes it unnecessarily more verbose.

The last few sections could have been cut entirely and nothing would have been lost.

Edit: In the process of writing this comment, the author removed 2 sections (and added an LLM acknowledgement), of which I referred to in my previous statement. To the author, thank you for reducing the verbosity with that.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by phoronixrly »

moomoo11 wrote: post #7

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Calling out leople who trust software from ByteDance, and not calling out people who trust software by Microsoft (i.e. VSCode) is a bit hypocritic. Both are faceless corps that produce unethical software.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by IncreasePosts »

marksomnian wrote: post #4
circuit10 wrote: post #3

Is it just me or does the formatting of this feel like ChatGPT (numbered lists, "Key Takeaways", and just the general phrasing of things)? It's not necessarily an issue if you checked over it properly but if you did use it then it might be good to mention that for transparency, because people can tell anyway and it might feel slightly otherwise (or maybe you just have a similar writing style)

> might be good to mention that for transparency, because people can tell anyway and it might feel slightly otherwise Devil's advocate: why does it matter (apart from "it feels wrong")? As long as the conclusions are sound, why is it relevant whether AI helped with the writing of the report?

Because AI isn't so hot on the "I" yet, and if you ask it to generate this kind of document it might just make stuff up. And there is too much content on the internet to delve deep on whatever you come across to understand the soundness of it. Obviously you need to do it at some point with some things, but few people do it all the time with everything.

Pretty much everyone has heuristics for content that feels like low quality garbage, and currently seeing the hallmarks of AI seems like a mostly reasonable one. Other heuristics are content filled with marketing speak, tons of typos, whatever.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by Fade_Dance »

benreesman wrote: post #11
segfault22 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, the core was written by me, i just used llm to fix my broken english.

Don't pay any attention to people giving you shit for using translation software. A lot of us sometimes forget that the whole world knows a little English and most of us native speakers have a ridiculous luxury in getting away with being two lazy to learn a few other languages.

I think it's good form to mention it as a little disclaimer, just so people don't take it the wrong day. Just write (this post was originally written by me but formatted and corrected with LLM since English is not my primary language).

From what I've seen, people generally do not like reading a generated content, but every time I've seen the author come back and say "I used it because it isn't my main language" the community always takes back the criticism. So I'd just be upfront about it and get ahead of it.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by segfault22 »

kevingadd wrote: post #10
refulgentis wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I don't think the post you're replying to deserves what feels like an aggressive dressing-down. The reality is that post formatting on HN is really janky and it's hard to get it to do what you want. I don't blame someone for failing to master HN formatting on one of their first tries.

Promise to try better next time, its really first post ever i have made on here, sorry!

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by Latty »

benreesman wrote: post #11
segfault22 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, the core was written by me, i just used llm to fix my broken english.

Don't pay any attention to people giving you shit for using translation software. A lot of us sometimes forget that the whole world knows a little English and most of us native speakers have a ridiculous luxury in getting away with being two lazy to learn a few other languages.

Part of the problems with using LLMs for translation is precisely that they alter the tone and structure of what you give it, writing using the LLM cliches and style, and it's unsurprising people see that and just assume completely generated slop. It's unfortunate, and I would probably try and use LLMs if English wasn't my first language, but I don't think it's as simple as "using translation software", I've not seen people called out in that way for dodgy Google Translate translations, for example, it's a problem specific to LLMs and the output they make having fundamental issues.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by benreesman »

kevingadd wrote: post #10
refulgentis wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I don't think the post you're replying to deserves what feels like an aggressive dressing-down. The reality is that post formatting on HN is really janky and it's hard to get it to do what you want. I don't blame someone for failing to master HN formatting on one of their first tries.

I've been here since like 2008 and I still screw it up sometimes. I'd have a not do it but HN comments are one of my "zero AI" zones. To echo sibling, its time to support markdown, its a standard now and even in arc, a reasonable subset is a pittance on anyone's time budget. It doesn't need to match GH bug for bug, that's a real project, but code formatting `backticks` is table stakes.
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