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Re: India Launches Beta Version of Its Data Site

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Post by easternmonk »

pierrend wrote: post #17
scorpion032 wrote: post #14

One of the core values of any government should be to make available all of it's data freely to all citizens available via API. Everything being publicly auctioned and the free data available publicly will stop many of the scams of the nature India is going through right now. I am not sure if any one would, but if someone comes up with a bill that holds the powers-that-be responsible under the "Duty to Report" bill,…

> "make available all of it's data freely" Not "all" the data. Many datasets should not be shared. Good reasons include: a)security reasons b)ecology reasons (don't say where endangered species are) c)personal data d) current trial

India currently has the so called "right to information" bill. That Bill outlines what information can be withheld. Now using the same bill government should ideally come up with "Duty to report" bill.

Re: India Launches Beta Version of Its Data Site

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Post by shiven »

berito wrote: post #30

Notice the use of the phrase "allopathic hospitals" in a database of number of beds available! It always cracks me up how modern medicine is referred to as just another form of medicine, like Ayurvedic or homeopathic. The Indian government is clearly of the opinion that forms of quackery that are homeopathy and Ayurveda actually work and are worthy of tax payer money.

Please qualify your claims with sources and/or evidence. I agree with your statement regarding Homeopathy being quackery, but I see no reason to paint Ayurvedic Medicine with the same brush. Unless, of course, our definitions of Ayurveda differ on a fundamental level.

Re: India Launches Beta Version of Its Data Site

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Post by w1ntermute »

berito wrote: post #30

Notice the use of the phrase "allopathic hospitals" in a database of number of beds available! It always cracks me up how modern medicine is referred to as just another form of medicine, like Ayurvedic or homeopathic. The Indian government is clearly of the opinion that forms of quackery that are homeopathy and Ayurveda actually work and are worthy of tax payer money.

In India, you can even get a degree in the field: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Ayurveda,_Medicine_...

It's pretty crazy that this sort of crap still gets attention in this day and age.

Re: India Launches Beta Version of Its Data Site

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Post by w1ntermute »

manojlds wrote: post #26
hiltro wrote: post #15

Why is it that contires such as india seems to be behind in the way of website design, the design is just too busy for me and the styles/colours remind me of early 2000 sites.

Have you looked at sites by computer scientists? Like some of the Microsoft Research related sites? They serve the purpose. Don't expect them to be pleasant on your eyes.

How about comparing apples to apples? Take a look at the equivalent US site[0]. It's pretty obvious the Indian equivalent blatantly ripped off the design - same sort of bar at the top, then a header with a logo, then a horizontal set of links to diferent places on the site, then a set of rotating images, then links with in-depth info in 3 columns.

Some of the UI differences include the addition of scrolling text and a crappier color scheme.

0: http://www.data.gov/

Re: India Launches Beta Version of Its Data Site

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Post by pullo »

w1ntermute wrote: post #33
berito wrote: post #30

Notice the use of the phrase "allopathic hospitals" in a database of number of beds available! It always cracks me up how modern medicine is referred to as just another form of medicine, like Ayurvedic or homeopathic. The Indian government is clearly of the opinion that forms of quackery that are homeopathy and Ayurveda actually work and are worthy of tax payer money.

In India, you can even get a degree in the field: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Ayurveda,_Medicine_... It's pretty crazy that this sort of crap still gets attention in this day and age.

Having known people who benefitted from ayurvedic treatment, I tell you that the regimen (medication and food restrictions- you are not assigned one without the other) is one of the toughest I have seen. the people who successfully get through it, swear by ayurvedic medicine. I have been to some of the facilities and met the doctors and they are above average ( by Indian standards). This is why, this mode of treatment in still popular among many in india. needless to say many treatment centers are based in cities and visited by what you might call a more educated and worldly crowd (I mean no offense here, but could not find a better way to say it :) I am willing to forgo my personal observation as an one off, but please qualify your comment.

Re: India Launches Beta Version of Its Data Site

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Post by manojlds »

w1ntermute wrote: post #34
manojlds wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you looked at sites by computer scientists? Like some of the Microsoft Research related sites? They serve the purpose. Don't expect them to be pleasant on your eyes.

How about comparing apples to apples? Take a look at the equivalent US site[0]. It's pretty obvious the Indian equivalent blatantly ripped off the design - same sort of bar at the top, then a header with a logo, then a horizontal set of links to diferent places on the site, then a set of rotating images, then links with in-depth info in 3 columns. Some of the UI differences include the addition of scrolling text and…

Did you miss the point that this is a India-US collaboration.

Re: India Launches Beta Version of Its Data Site

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Post by njx »

w1ntermute wrote: post #33
berito wrote: post #30

Notice the use of the phrase "allopathic hospitals" in a database of number of beds available! It always cracks me up how modern medicine is referred to as just another form of medicine, like Ayurvedic or homeopathic. The Indian government is clearly of the opinion that forms of quackery that are homeopathy and Ayurveda actually work and are worthy of tax payer money.

In India, you can even get a degree in the field: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Ayurveda,_Medicine_... It's pretty crazy that this sort of crap still gets attention in this day and age.

You think ayurveda is crap? What makes you think that?

Re: India Launches Beta Version of Its Data Site

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Post by w1ntermute »

pullo wrote: post #35
w1ntermute wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In India, you can even get a degree in the field: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Ayurveda,_Medicine_... It's pretty crazy that this sort of crap still gets attention in this day and age.

Having known people who benefitted from ayurvedic treatment, I tell you that the regimen (medication and food restrictions- you are not assigned one without the other) is one of the toughest I have seen. the people who successfully get through it, swear by ayurvedic medicine. I have been to some of the facilities and met the doctors and they are above average ( by Indian standards). This is why, this mode of treatmen…

> Having known people who benefitted from ayurvedic treatment

Anecdotal evidence.

> needless to say many treatment centers are based in cities and visited by what you might call a more educated and worldly crowd

Appeal to authority.

How about some actual scientific evidence? I'm no expert on the matter, but from what I can find on Wikipedia[0], the benefits of Ayurvedic medicne were inconclusive at best.

As someone who has spent time in medical research, I will admit my opinion is skewed. I've worked with plenty of researchers from India, and none of them have given any credence to Ayurvedic medicine. These are people who (like any researchers) will use any and all means available to them to come up with scientifically viable theories that they can use to get grants. If Ayurveda were as great as you claim it is, then they would have definitely given it a shot.

0: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurvedic_medicine#Scientific_a...

Re: India Launches Beta Version of Its Data Site

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Post by lutusp »

scorpion032 wrote: post #14

One of the core values of any government should be to make available all of it's data freely to all citizens available via API. Everything being publicly auctioned and the free data available publicly will stop many of the scams of the nature India is going through right now. I am not sure if any one would, but if someone comes up with a bill that holds the powers-that-be responsible under the "Duty to Report" bill,…

> One of the core values of any government should be to make available all of it's data ... [emphasis added]

On reading both this post and the title of this thread, one might be misled into thinking that "it's" doesn't mean "it is".

Re: India Launches Beta Version of Its Data Site

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Post by mayutana »

berito wrote: post #30

Notice the use of the phrase "allopathic hospitals" in a database of number of beds available! It always cracks me up how modern medicine is referred to as just another form of medicine, like Ayurvedic or homeopathic. The Indian government is clearly of the opinion that forms of quackery that are homeopathy and Ayurveda actually work and are worthy of tax payer money.

"are worthy of tax payer money": As far as I know, most of these ayurvedic/homeopathy institutes (both for education as well as treatment) do not receive public funding.
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