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Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by quectophoton »

muppetman wrote: post #147
isatty wrote: post #99

Why do people use obvious spyware when free software exists?

Well there's a middle ground - Sublime Text isn't free but it's fantastic and isn't sending back all my code/work to the Chinese Government. Sorry, "Telemetry"

And the other side of the middle ground, Grafana being AGPL but requiring you to disable 4 analytics flags, 1 gravatar flag, and (I think) one of their default dashboards was also fetching news from a Grafana URL.

https://github.com/grafana/tempo/discussions/5001#discussion...

(Yes, that's for Grafana tempo, but the issue in `grafana/grafana` was just marked as duplicate of this.)

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by [deleted] »

goopypoop wrote: post #77
Latty wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of the problems with using LLMs for translation is precisely that they alter the tone and structure of what you give it, writing using the LLM cliches and style, and it's unsurprising people see that and just assume completely generated slop. It's unfortunate, and I would probably try and use LLMs if English wasn't my first language, but I don't think it's as simple as "using translation software", I've not seen…

my nipples explode with delight!

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Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by neurostimulant »

gruez wrote: post #124
meindnoch wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hate to break it to you, but /etc/hosts only works for apps that use getaddrinfo or similar APIs. Anything that does its own DNS resolution, which coincidentally includes anything Chromium-based, is free to ignore your hosts file.

But pi-hole seems equally susceptible to the same issue? If you're really serious about blocking you'd need some sort of firewall that can intercept TLS connections and parse SNI headers, which typically requires specialized hardware and/or beefy processor if you want reasonable throughput speeds.

I configured my router to redirect all outbound port 53 udp traffic to adguard home running on a raspberry pi. From the log, it seems to be working reasonably enough, especially for apps that do their own dns resolution like the netflix app on my chromecast. Hopefully they don't switch to dns over https any time soon to circumvent it.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by jen20 »

phillipcarter wrote: post #137
jen20 wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have Bytedance produced literally anything to that assumption unreasonable?

Amongst other things they do have a division that produces OKR tracking software. Just the weird story of another multinational I suppose.

As in objective and key result? That’s… weird but ok!

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by qiine »

imglorp wrote: post #64
drewbitt wrote: post #28

They don't want telemetry ever disabled, even for a minority of people who do toggle it off. Why?

Disabling telemetry might be interpreted as a self-indicated signal of "I have something to hide", so they jack up the snooping.

almost as if it was a trap... ;p

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by bigprof »

rvnx wrote: post #185
const_cast wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't true, this is the sort of toxic "if I have nothing to hide then why value privacy" ideology that got us into this privacy nightmare. Every single person has "something to hide", and that's normal. It's normal to not want your messages snooped through. It doesn't mean you're a criminal, or even computer-saavy.

Mhhh it is not really about “nothing to hide”, it was more that if you use niche services targeted at privacy, it puts a big target on you. Like the Casio watches, travelling to Syria, using Tor, Protonmail, etc… When it is better in reality to have a regular watch, a Gmail with encrypted .zip files or whatever, etc. It does not mean you are a criminal if you have that Casio watch, but if you have this, plus encrypte…

What flag does using a Casio watch raise? I have a G Shock that i love though i don't wear it as often nowadays.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by neurostimulant »

raverbashing wrote: post #154

Why would anyone use a "Bytedance VSCode fork" is beyond me

It's cheap, the ai features cost about half of what other editors are charging ($10/mo) and the free tier has generous limit. I guess you pay the difference with something else :)

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by cuuupid »

rvnx wrote: post #165
cuuupid wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one in the chain of comments you are replying to has mentioned anything about Google, and on HackerNews you will find the majority sentiment is against spying in all forms - especially by Google, Meta, etc. Even if we interact with your rhetoric[1] at face value, there is a big difference between data going to your own elected government versus that of a foreign adversary. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whatabo…

So you are implying at the end that it is better that your secrets (“telemetry”) go to your local agencies and to possible relatives or family who work on Gmail, Uber, etc ?

Yes, naturally I trust my own elected government, or possible relatives/family, far more than I trust a foreign adversary

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by Biganon »

rs186 wrote: post #114
isatty wrote: post #99

Why do people use obvious spyware when free software exists?

Eh, I don't know how you could tell it is "obvious" "spyware", unless you are referring to the fact that it comes from Bytedance.

The mere fact that disabling telemetry does not at all disable telemetry is enough for it to be called spyware.
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