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The UK’s new age-gating rules are easy to bypass

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Re: The UK’s new age-gating rules are easy to bypass

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Post by rcxdude »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #21
pr337h4m wrote: post #19

The most disturbing thing about this saga is that websites that have no physical/legal/business presence in the UK are proactively geoblocking UK-origin IPs. Censorious governments have always been a thing since the beginning of the internet. Websites (especially non-corporate ones like 4chan or R34) preemptively surrendering to a foreign government that has no jurisdiction over them is what's new.

This is because nowadays everything has to be zero-risk and "over-lawyered." We have seen the same with the GDPR and now also with the UK Internet Safety Act.

Mainly because, I think, these services are doing the calculation of the risk vs the proportion of users they have from the UK (already small) and that cannot figure out how to use a VPN (even smaller)

Re: The UK’s new age-gating rules are easy to bypass

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Post by rcxdude »

bsenftner wrote: post #49

Are people still thinking a face image can be used to verify age? That's absurd. Former globally leading facial recognition developer here, and the article lightly mentions using a face image and age verification face analysis - that's not age accurate at all. Ask many ethnicities with experience, "age verification" image analysis is so unreliable it is fraud used in this context.

I think it is convenient for the services and probably the regulators to pretend so.

Re: The UK’s new age-gating rules are easy to bypass

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Post by t_a_mm_acq »

bsenftner wrote: post #49

Are people still thinking a face image can be used to verify age? That's absurd. Former globally leading facial recognition developer here, and the article lightly mentions using a face image and age verification face analysis - that's not age accurate at all. Ask many ethnicities with experience, "age verification" image analysis is so unreliable it is fraud used in this context.

Can you share more about this please? I work in the industry and would love to know more about your experience with this verification method.

Re: The UK’s new age-gating rules are easy to bypass

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Post by pixxel »

louthy wrote: post #66
TacticalCoder wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They know what they doing exactly. They're already using the "online safety act" to silence people online. They're super scared because a great many people have had enough. Crimes numbers, including rapes, are through the roof in the UK. And they want to silence anyone who wants to talk about criminality on the ultra rise. The UK is on a very dark path. It's the country in the world with the most millionaires fleei…

This is far right fear-mongering rhetoric. It’s the standard hatred of ethnic minorities whipped up by bigots. The UK is not on a “dark path”, that’s absolute nonsense. Nor do people live in fear. I assume you don’t actually live in the UK. Because none of your description is the UK I live in. > “People are scared of what's going on. Both criminality and religious extremism are rising at a more than alarming rate.” C…

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Re: The UK’s new age-gating rules are easy to bypass

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Post by [deleted] »

pr337h4m wrote: post #19

The most disturbing thing about this saga is that websites that have no physical/legal/business presence in the UK are proactively geoblocking UK-origin IPs. Censorious governments have always been a thing since the beginning of the internet. Websites (especially non-corporate ones like 4chan or R34) preemptively surrendering to a foreign government that has no jurisdiction over them is what's new.

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Re: The UK’s new age-gating rules are easy to bypass

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Post by mft_ »

louthy wrote: post #66
TacticalCoder wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They know what they doing exactly. They're already using the "online safety act" to silence people online. They're super scared because a great many people have had enough. Crimes numbers, including rapes, are through the roof in the UK. And they want to silence anyone who wants to talk about criminality on the ultra rise. The UK is on a very dark path. It's the country in the world with the most millionaires fleei…

This is far right fear-mongering rhetoric. It’s the standard hatred of ethnic minorities whipped up by bigots. The UK is not on a “dark path”, that’s absolute nonsense. Nor do people live in fear. I assume you don’t actually live in the UK. Because none of your description is the UK I live in. > “People are scared of what's going on. Both criminality and religious extremism are rising at a more than alarming rate.” C…

> RE: the Rolex watch crime — I walk through East London with a Patek Philippe on my arm and have zero concerns, I’m not scared, nor do I live in fear.

Which route do you take? Just asking for, er, a friend…

Re: The UK’s new age-gating rules are easy to bypass

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Post by blitzar »

Aeolun wrote: post #29

Is this hysteria about sex a new thing? I feel like I grew up in an age where it was pretty normal to see these things as soon as you were old enough to be interested in them.

Every since they stopped showing 16 year old girls topless in the UK daily newspapers (2004) things have been trending that way.

Re: The UK’s new age-gating rules are easy to bypass

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Post by pigeonhole123 »

louthy wrote: post #66
TacticalCoder wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They know what they doing exactly. They're already using the "online safety act" to silence people online. They're super scared because a great many people have had enough. Crimes numbers, including rapes, are through the roof in the UK. And they want to silence anyone who wants to talk about criminality on the ultra rise. The UK is on a very dark path. It's the country in the world with the most millionaires fleei…

This is far right fear-mongering rhetoric. It’s the standard hatred of ethnic minorities whipped up by bigots. The UK is not on a “dark path”, that’s absolute nonsense. Nor do people live in fear. I assume you don’t actually live in the UK. Because none of your description is the UK I live in. > “People are scared of what's going on. Both criminality and religious extremism are rising at a more than alarming rate.” C…

Violent crime is way up

https://www.statista.com/statistics/288256/violent-crimes-in...

Re: The UK’s new age-gating rules are easy to bypass

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Post by louthy »

mft_ wrote: post #76
louthy wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is far right fear-mongering rhetoric. It’s the standard hatred of ethnic minorities whipped up by bigots. The UK is not on a “dark path”, that’s absolute nonsense. Nor do people live in fear. I assume you don’t actually live in the UK. Because none of your description is the UK I live in. > “People are scared of what's going on. Both criminality and religious extremism are rising at a more than alarming rate.” C…

> RE: the Rolex watch crime — I walk through East London with a Patek Philippe on my arm and have zero concerns, I’m not scared, nor do I live in fear. Which route do you take? Just asking for, er, a friend…

:D Dalston high-street mostly. It’s insured anyway, have it: I’d never argue/fight with a mugger! Which seems to be what happened to Rolex guy: no watch is worth fighting for, just hand it over.
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