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The UK’s new age-gating rules are easy to bypass

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Re: The UK’s new age-gating rules are easy to bypass

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As expected, bureaucrats completely out of touch with current technology producing regulations that are out of touch with current technology

They know what they doing exactly. But they now have a reason to require age and ID checks to buy VPN. Then ban payments to VPNs that don't follow said regulation. You'll see.

> They know what they doing exactly.

They're already using the "online safety act" to silence people online.

They're super scared because a great many people have had enough. Crimes numbers, including rapes, are through the roof in the UK. And they want to silence anyone who wants to talk about criminality on the ultra rise.

The UK is on a very dark path. It's the country in the world with the most millionaires fleeing the country: mainstream media brainwash the people saying it's supposedly for tax reasons these millionaires are leaving.

But I live in a country where many millionaires and families have family offices and trusts and the tune is very different.

People are scared of what's going on. Both criminality and religious extremism are rising at a more than alarming rate. And not only is the government doing nothing about it, they're going after those denouncing the crimes.

People are now stabbed to death for their watch in London. A few days ago:

https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/three-arrested-man-stabbed-death...

Leftists refuse to see it. They'll rationalize that that man was a capitalist oppressor for wearing a Rolex and that he provoked these people by wearing a $10 K watch. That he's the reason these killers were broke and forced to act evil. That they shouldn't get much jail time because now they'll surely be nice members of a high-trust society.

These people are precisely those who brought the Online Safety Act. But it's Orwellian and Orwellian talk: for what the Online Safety Act is really used for is to silence talk about crimes.

I'm in the EU: in a few years leftists shall probably have put a system in place where police shall come and knock on my door for my posts on HN.

Re: The UK’s new age-gating rules are easy to bypass

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Except paying the vpn requires a credit card that does the same verification check so it’s not thwarting the rule at all.

Many, eg Mullvad, allow for crypto payments

It's surprisingly hard to get cryptocurrency without a KYC check in the UK - bitcoin ATMs and suchlike are banned.

Far simpler, if you're a teen that wants to get around the block, to just have an older looking friend do the video selfie.

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Age limits on buying cigarettes are easily thwarted by finding a corner shop that needs the sale and will sell to kids. Height restrictions on fairground rides are easily thwarted by putting bits of wood in your shoes. None of this matters.

The point is that this kind of control will drastically reduce under 18s consuming content that they shouldn't. We don't need the all of society's controls to be flawless.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many, eg Mullvad, allow for crypto payments

It's surprisingly hard to get cryptocurrency without a KYC check in the UK - bitcoin ATMs and suchlike are banned. Far simpler, if you're a teen that wants to get around the block, to just have an older looking friend do the video selfie.

Meh, perhaps now, but there is an easy pipeline of work (mostly menial, Turk type tasks) for crypto that runs right past KYC. Cash for crypto is also surprisingly easy to find, again bypassing most KYC.

I am not sure what will be easier.

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Age limits on buying cigarettes are easily thwarted by finding a corner shop that needs the sale and will sell to kids. Height restrictions on fairground rides are easily thwarted by putting bits of wood in your shoes. None of this matters. The point is that this kind of control will drastically reduce under 18s consuming content that they shouldn't. We don't need the all of society's controls to be flawless.

If you think VPN is going to stop kids from accessing porn, I have a bridge to sell you.

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The most disturbing thing about this saga is that websites that have no physical/legal/business presence in the UK are proactively geoblocking UK-origin IPs.

Censorious governments have always been a thing since the beginning of the internet. Websites (especially non-corporate ones like 4chan or R34) preemptively surrendering to a foreign government that has no jurisdiction over them is what's new.

Re: The UK’s new age-gating rules are easy to bypass

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Age limits on buying cigarettes are easily thwarted by finding a corner shop that needs the sale and will sell to kids. Height restrictions on fairground rides are easily thwarted by putting bits of wood in your shoes. None of this matters. The point is that this kind of control will drastically reduce under 18s consuming content that they shouldn't. We don't need the all of society's controls to be flawless.

Should or shouldn't is a matter of opinion that I disagree with because it has no evidential basis. Downloading a free VPN isn't just doable, it's completely trivial in the privacy of your home and doesn't require any confrontation or risk unlike trying to buy alcohol or cigarettes illegally.

And that is before you consider that what you're ultimately doing, even if your blocking strategies were successful, is steering kids towards the darker markets where illegal and actually harmful content isn't removed and that don't care about your ID laws.

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