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AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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You can apparently disable these annoying and useless "AI" overviews by cursing in the query: https://arstechnica.com/google/2025/01/just-give-me-the-fing...

>useless

They’re actually pretty useful. It tends to be a very brief summary of the top results, so you can tell if anything is worth clicking on.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#162
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Fun. I have people asking ChatGPT support question about my SaaS app, getting made up answers, and then cancelling because we can’t do something that we can. Can’t make this crap up. How do I teach Chat GPT every feature of a random SaaS app?

Could that be a case of defamation (chatgpt/whatever is damaging your reputation and causing monetary injury)?

Companies don't own the AI outputs, but I wonder if they could be found to be publishers of AI content they provide. I really doubt it, though.

I expect courts will go out of their way to not answer that question or just say no.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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My question here is: why would Google try to actively sabotage, possibly even devastate the very backbone cash cow that is all those spammy, SEO-laden search and ad results right below its own AI overview, that's displacing them for engine users who don't bother with the rest (I thing I personally avoid because fuck you hallucinating AI overview)

Anyone have any ideas?

EDIT: Also, the irony of Google, which for years harped on and on about working to fight incorrect, erroneous and also even "misinformation-laden" search results, now making a hallucinating AI that often makes up outright bullshit with authority as its primary, first-line result for information. Truly a company that bathes in an ever deeper pool of shit the bigger it grows.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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The problem is that SEO has made it hard to find trustworthy sites in the first place. The places I trust the most now for getting random information is Reddit and Wikipedia, which is absolutely ridiculous as they are terrible options. But SEO slop machines have made it so hard to find the good websites without putting in more legwork than makes sense a lot of the time. Funnily enough, this makes AI look like a good…

AI is being influenced by all that noise. It isn’t necessarily going to an authoritative source, it’s looking at Reddit and some SEO slop and using that to come up with the answer. We need AI that’s trained exclusively on verified data and not random websites and internet comments.

It'll still hallucinate

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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Ads inside LLMs (e.g. pay $ to boost your product in LLM recommendation) is going to be a big thing. My guess is that Google/OpenAI are eyeing each other - whoever does this first. Why would that work? It's a proven business model. Example: I use LLMs for product research (e.g. which washing machine to buy). Retailer pays if link to their website is included in the results. Don't want to pay? Then redirect the user t…

Forget links, agents are gonna just go upstream to the source and buy it for you. I think it will change the game because intent will be super high and conversion will go through the roof.

Feels like this hope is in the same vein as Amazon Dash and then the expectation that people would buy shit with voice assistants like Alexa.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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Ads inside LLMs (e.g. pay $ to boost your product in LLM recommendation) is going to be a big thing. My guess is that Google/OpenAI are eyeing each other - whoever does this first. Why would that work? It's a proven business model. Example: I use LLMs for product research (e.g. which washing machine to buy). Retailer pays if link to their website is included in the results. Don't want to pay? Then redirect the user t…

Forget links, agents are gonna just go upstream to the source and buy it for you. I think it will change the game because intent will be super high and conversion will go through the roof.

Yeah I’m gonna give an AI agent my credit card and complete autonomy with my finances so it can hallucinate me a new car. I love getting findommed.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#167

Of course slow, shitty web sites also cause a massive drop in clicks, as soon as an alternative to clicking emerges. It's just like on HN, if I see an interesting title and want to know what the article is about, I can wince and click the article link, but it's much faster and easier to click the HN comments link and infer the info I want from the comments. That difference is almost entirely from the crappy overdesig…

This is a pretty apt analogy: why settle for the original article when you can read the outrage infused summary of an opinionated troll in a hurry?

It has little to do with overdesign or load times.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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There's a library I use with extensive documentation- every method, parameter, event, configuration option conceivable is documented. Every so often I get lost in the docs trying to do something that actually isn't supported (the library has some glaring oversights) and I'll search on Google to see if anyone else came up with a similar problem and solution on a forum or something. Instead of telling me "that isn't su…

Yes I know hallucinations are a thing. But when I had problems lile that better prompting (don’t make assumptions) and telling it to verify all of its answers with web resources For troubleshooting an issue my prompt is usually “I am trying to do debug an issue. I’m going to give you the error message. Ask me questions one by one to help me troubleshoot. Prefer asking clarifying questions to making assumptions”. Once…

How are you going to prompt the AI overview?

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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It's fundamentally self-destructive though. In time, the sites which rely on search clicks for revenue will essentially cease to be paid for their work, and in many cases will therefore stop publishing the high-quality material that you're looking for.

Sites rely on ad impressions for revenue. I block ads anyway so either way they aren’t getting money from me. And if ad supported content ceases to exist, nothing of value will have been lost. I’m not morally opposed to advertising, I find ad supported content not worth reading especially on mobile.

>And if ad supported content ceases to exist, nothing of value will have been lost.

"Absolutely nothing on any website that relies on ads for revenue is of any value" is a wild take.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#170

Of course slow, shitty web sites also cause a massive drop in clicks, as soon as an alternative to clicking emerges. It's just like on HN, if I see an interesting title and want to know what the article is about, I can wince and click the article link, but it's much faster and easier to click the HN comments link and infer the info I want from the comments. That difference is almost entirely from the crappy overdesig…

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