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AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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You can apparently disable these annoying and useless "AI" overviews by cursing in the query: https://arstechnica.com/google/2025/01/just-give-me-the-fing...

Google was kind enough to give the AI overview a stable CSS class name (to date), so this userscript has been effective at hiding it for me:

window.addEventListener('load', function() { var things = this.document.getElementsByClassName('M8OgIe'); for (var thing of things) { thing.style.display = 'none'; } }, false);

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#122
post #67

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Fun. I have people asking ChatGPT support question about my SaaS app, getting made up answers, and then cancelling because we can’t do something that we can. Can’t make this crap up. How do I teach Chat GPT every feature of a random SaaS app?

Write documentation and don't block crawlers.

Wouldn't you need to wait until they train and release their next model?

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#124
post #50

Conversely, it's useful to get an immediate answer sometimes 6 months ago, "what temp is pork safe at?" was a few clicks, long SEO optimised blog post answers and usually all in F not C ... despite Google knowing location ... I used it as an example at the time of 'how hard can this be?' First sentance of Google AI response right now: "Pork is safe to eat when cooked to an internal temperature of 145°F (63°C)"

> 6 months ago, "what temp is pork safe at?

No it wasn't, most of the first page results have the temperature right there in the summary, many of them with both F and C, and unlike the AI response, there is much lower chance of hallucinated results.

So you've gained nothing

PS Trying the same search with -ai gets you the full table with temperatures, unlike with the AI summary where you have to click to get more details, so the new AI summary is strictly worse

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#125
post #50

Conversely, it's useful to get an immediate answer sometimes 6 months ago, "what temp is pork safe at?" was a few clicks, long SEO optimised blog post answers and usually all in F not C ... despite Google knowing location ... I used it as an example at the time of 'how hard can this be?' First sentance of Google AI response right now: "Pork is safe to eat when cooked to an internal temperature of 145°F (63°C)"

Funny story, I used that to know the cooked temperature of burgers, it said medium-rare was 130. I proceeded to eating it and all, but then like half way through, I noticed the middle of this burger is really red looking, doesn't seem normal, and suddenly I remembered, wait, ground beef is always supposed to be 160, 130 medium-rare is for steak.

I then chatted that back to it, and it was like, oh ya, I made a mistake, you're right, sorry.

Anyways, luckily I did not get sick.

Moral of the story, don't get mentally lazy and use AI to save you the brain it takes for simple answers.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#126
post #67

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Write documentation and don't block crawlers.

There's a library I use with extensive documentation- every method, parameter, event, configuration option conceivable is documented. Every so often I get lost in the docs trying to do something that actually isn't supported (the library has some glaring oversights) and I'll search on Google to see if anyone else came up with a similar problem and solution on a forum or something. Instead of telling me "that isn't su…

I have the Google AI overview adblocked and I keep it up to date because it's an unbelievably hostile thing to have in your information space: it sounds truthy, so even if you try to ignore it it's liable to bias the way you evaluate other answers going forward.

It's also obnoxious on mobile where it takes up the whole first result space.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#127
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I still find it amazing that the world's largest search engine, which so many use as an oracle, is so happy to put wrong information at the top of its page. My examples recently - - Looking up a hint for the casino room in the game "Blue Prince", the AI summary gave me details of the card games on offer at the "Blue Prince Casino" in the next suburb over. There is no casino there. - Looking up workers rights during a…

For years, a search for “is it safe to throw used car batteries into the ocean” would show an overview saying that not only is it safe, it’s beneficial to ocean life, so it’s a good thing to do. At some point, an article about how Google was showing this crap made it to the top of the rankings and they started taking the overview from it rather than the original Quora answer it used before. Somehow it still got it wr…

How do you fix a weird bug in a black box? Return null.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#128

Not any AI tho. I have replaced SEO with Perplexity AI only. It isn't a chatbot but it actually search for what you are looking for and most importantly, it shows all the sources it used. Depending on the question I can get anywhere from 10 to 40 sources. No other AI service provides that, they use the data from their training model only which in my experience, is full of errors, incomplete, cannot answer or altogeth…

Almost all other AI do that as well. ChatGPT will show you like 10+ sources, it'll put it next to the part of the answer that the source was used for too.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#129
post #67

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Fun. I have people asking ChatGPT support question about my SaaS app, getting made up answers, and then cancelling because we can’t do something that we can. Can’t make this crap up. How do I teach Chat GPT every feature of a random SaaS app?

Write documentation and don't block crawlers.

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Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#130
post #67

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Write documentation and don't block crawlers.

There's a library I use with extensive documentation- every method, parameter, event, configuration option conceivable is documented. Every so often I get lost in the docs trying to do something that actually isn't supported (the library has some glaring oversights) and I'll search on Google to see if anyone else came up with a similar problem and solution on a forum or something. Instead of telling me "that isn't su…

Yes I know hallucinations are a thing. But when I had problems lile that better prompting (don’t make assumptions) and telling it to verify all of its answers with web resources

For troubleshooting an issue my prompt is usually “I am trying to do debug an issue. I’m going to give you the error message. Ask me questions one by one to help me troubleshoot. Prefer asking clarifying questions to making assumptions”.

Once I started doing that, it’s gotten a lot better.

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