We should obviously ban combustion engine cars, at least starting with cities. I can’t think of a single clearer win for air quality.
Yep, sell your ICE and buy a jet plane instead.
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Electric cars produce less brake dust pollution than combustion-engine cars
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Re: Electric cars produce less brake dust pollution than combustion-engine cars
#52An an EV owner, I can testify that the tyre wear more than makes up for the reduction in brake dust. I’ve had to change tyres every 10K miles.
There is something seriously wrong with your tires if that's actually the case. I drive a pretty heavy EV myself (an AWD ID.4) and your wear is ludicrous.
Re: Electric cars produce less brake dust pollution than combustion-engine cars
#53Heavier cars with more torque at the wheels means more tyre dust.
Re: Electric cars produce less brake dust pollution than combustion-engine cars
#54An an EV owner, I can testify that the tyre wear more than makes up for the reduction in brake dust. I’ve had to change tyres every 10K miles.
How is tire wear related to the method of power? It could be a steam engine for all it mattered.
Accelerating and decelerating, in regards to the tire, don't care what is causing the force.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would love to have gone electric (bought a car in September) but I rent and don't have any way to charge at my residence. How do we solve the renters-that-cant-charge-their-cars problem?
Public EV chargers are pretty widespread nowadays. Not as much as gas chargers obviously, but for most people in the country if you don't have a way to charge at home it's not fundamentally that different from not having a gas pump at your house. Plus, most people can charge at home with an extension cord. It's not particularly fast, but you should be able to get 4-5 miles an hour. In the worst case scenario where yo…
Popularity has costs, some are waiting in line for 45 minutes to use a fast charger.
EV is not for everyone, but those Rivian are nice though. =3
Re: Electric cars produce less brake dust pollution than combustion-engine cars
#56We should obviously ban combustion engine cars, at least starting with cities. I can’t think of a single clearer win for air quality.
I would love to have gone electric (bought a car in September) but I rent and don't have any way to charge at my residence. How do we solve the renters-that-cant-charge-their-cars problem?
Well if you have a Tesla, I believe you can sit in it and it offers games to play on its iPad to kill the time.
Re: Electric cars produce less brake dust pollution than combustion-engine cars
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What are you doing to your tires that they only last 10k miles? I think that might be a driver error issue, because my EV (a heavier sedan) basically never needed tire replacement barring me running over a screw or something.
Just normal driving, it wasn’t quite so bad on our previous car which was a Nissan Leaf (with 30kWh battery) but our current Kia Niro just has a lot bigger batter (64kWh) and it is a lot heavier I suppose, the tyres just don’t seem to last as long. I’m pretty sure I’m using summer tyres all year round (I live in the UK) this was recommended by the dealer
Some tyre compounds wear a lot faster than others (though often with better grip). I wonder if that's contributing.
The other thing is poor alignment (especially toe settings) which cause the tyres to fight each other constantly. It can be a very small difference, almost imperceptible but still accelerate the wear.
10k miles is very short for a tyre.
Often you can tell a lot from the tyre temperature after a drive: if they're getting very warm, it can indicate problems, e.g. if one axle has much warmer tyres than the other (hard to give an objective standard on that, though, so many factors)
Re: Electric cars produce less brake dust pollution than combustion-engine cars
#58We should obviously ban combustion engine cars, at least starting with cities. I can’t think of a single clearer win for air quality.
I’m against a ban. That sort of pollution is an externality and we could price it in.
The externalities are all the costs of medical problems and deaths due to pollution, as well as reduced property values due to polluted areas being less desirable. For the former I’d say a ban is appropriate, unless you’re suggesting to somehow literally clean the polluted air and pay for it with a gas automobile tax.
Re: Electric cars produce less brake dust pollution than combustion-engine cars
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Presumably this is a joke. Mine lasted 5 years, 50k miles.
I assumed instead they were soft compound tires with a low treadwear number. Nice for "sport" driving but they wear very quickly.
All the people claiming EVs wear tires faster probably don't have the slightest idea that tires even have treadwear ratings. That coupled with the total uselessness of personal anecdotes...
Performance oriented EVs, just like performance oriented ICE cars, are going to have softer, stickier tires that wear faster.
Re: Electric cars produce less brake dust pollution than combustion-engine cars
#60An an EV owner, I can testify that the tyre wear more than makes up for the reduction in brake dust. I’ve had to change tyres every 10K miles.
How is tire wear related to the method of power? It could be a steam engine for all it mattered. Accelerating and decelerating, in regards to the tire, don't care what is causing the force.
It's related to vehicle weight, electric cars can be significantly heavier.