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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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If that was always the goal, how do you explain Israel's 2005 withdrawal from Gaza and removal of Jews living there?

From Wikipedia: In October 2004, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's senior adviser, Dov Weissglass, explained the meaning of Sharon's statement further: "The significance of the disengagement plan [from Gaza] is the freezing of the peace process, and when you freeze that process, you prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state, and you prevent a discussion on the refugees, the borders and Jerusalem. Effectively, this…

This seems a bit besides the point; I think the point stands that if Israel always wanted Gaza, its unilateral withdraw wouldn't have made sense.

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The US is complicit in the intentional starvation of gaza’s people by israel. At least 15 people have starved to death in the last 24 hours, including an infant. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-war-hunger-childre... Ragequitting UNESCO over their recognition of palestine is a small part of the project of supporting the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the west bank.

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This is utter misinformation. Israeli apologists pin everything on Palestine. However, I recently sat down and wanted to look at as many videos as possible on this topic. The videos I saw coming out from Palestine, in particular children getting mutilated, made me question everything. Israel took out Chef Andreas's volunteers, clearly labeled vehicles of aid. They then exerted an effort to discredit the man, whose medal was taken by POTUS. Israelis post on tiktok videos that are reminiscient of Nazis descriptions of the Jews. They refer to Palestinians as animals, and joke on babies getting killed (and raped). Tiktok's web interface shows the ip address of OP, which means everything I saw was indeed coming out of Israel. Coupled with their generals calling for the cleansing of Palestine, and people like breppp will close their ears while barking at the command of their masters. I have lost any confidence in Israel, and I have no doubt their propaganda is being lost (including by apologists like breppp). Israel today is not a Western country (as an American, I reject that label). It is an apartheid, genocidal state, reaping our hard earned taxes to mutilate children and aid workers with impunity. The difference is AIPAC and the president's Jewish daughter regard it as the Holy Land, and would excuse Israel if it took out facilities inside our country. They are traitors to everything America stands for, and I urge everyone here to reach out to your representatives, and make it known. Do not allow bad actors and foreign actors like Israel to destroy the beacon of hope that we stand for. America is NOT and will never be an ally of Israel regardless of what Bill Ackman and rich Israelis want you to believe. Every American (left, or right, Sam Seder or Tucker Carlson) should agree on this. There are forces (in particular, Jews and Evangelicals, like Ben Shapiro for instance), that believe and make it known, that America's purpose (our taxes, our soldiers' blood) is for Israel's security. Reject this with all your might. I called my representative this mroning, and gave their office a clear piece of mind. I will continue to do so. But again: Israel is apartheid. It is a genocidal state, that steals and dislocates families. They have a goddamn program called Aaliya here in the US, where they practically admit it! You get a piece of Palestinian land, the IDF will escort you and the gov will pay you! Absolutely repugnant nation. Finally, we must ask ourselves. When ICJ, Unesco et al., find Israel a genocidal state, are they all wrong? I think you will find our politicans are complicit, because AIPAC and Propaganda has worked so well for Israel. It is only when we stand up to genocide and tyranny that cowards like Bibi bend the knee. We have also come to accept them blowing up Syrians who just achieved liberation and Iran. It is normal to mutilate children. It is normal to have a problem with everyone of your neighbors, including those that just achieved their freedom (and allowed you to use their airspace in a recent war). It is normal to kill Americans (USS Liberty, Rachel Corrie, most recently an American in the West Bank). It is normal to hunt American aid workers in clearly labeled vehicles and discredit the man helping others. It is normal for two political parties that disagree on most things, to suck up to one foreign nation. It is normal for the richest nation on earth to send billions to a nation with healthcare, so they can build a dome and call us when they need to hit bunkers. It is normal for America to serve a master. That is sarcasm, that I bet is lost on Israeli apologists.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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For sure this guy is going to, already is, ruining the peace and prosperity the world has enjoyed since WW2. I suspect he will make a major war, and invoke military rule or whatever, before the next election, in order to continue in power.

Peace and prosperity since WWII? I suppose that Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Myanmar, Sudan, Somalia, Pakistan/India/China, Georgia, Bosnia/Herzegovina, and so on just never happened? Not doubting that war is on the horizon, but the USA is addicted to war, and many other nations had their own issues independently of the USA.

As the other reply said, and backed it up with references, while there have been plenty of smaller regional conflicts as you point out, the world in general has enjoyed an extraordinary degree of peacefulness.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Really? Every time I search for independent verification I am told it’s too hard to come up with anything conclusive.

FUD designed to allow the genocide to continue. In short: gazans are all issued ID numbers at birth. The ministry of health has published id numbers of the dead, which means you can do stats and tell if the data is fake. On top of that, so far (afaik since 2009 when hamas came to power) nobody has caught them in a lie. So they’ve a track record of telling the truth, and give us data that we can smell-test for fraud a…

> The ministry of health has published id numbers of the dead, which means you can do stats and tell if the data is fake. On top of that, so far (afaik since 2009 when hamas came to power) nobody has caught them in a lie. So they’ve a track record of telling the truth, and give us data that we can smell-test for fraud and it passes.

If you comment that they give us this data, surely you have a link to said data?

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The US is complicit in the intentional starvation of gaza’s people by israel. At least 15 people have starved to death in the last 24 hours, including an infant. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-war-hunger-childre... Ragequitting UNESCO over their recognition of palestine is a small part of the project of supporting the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the west bank.

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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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post #412

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Really? Every time I search for independent verification I am told it’s too hard to come up with anything conclusive.

FUD designed to allow the genocide to continue. In short: gazans are all issued ID numbers at birth. The ministry of health has published id numbers of the dead, which means you can do stats and tell if the data is fake. On top of that, so far (afaik since 2009 when hamas came to power) nobody has caught them in a lie. So they’ve a track record of telling the truth, and give us data that we can smell-test for fraud a…

No, they claim that a much higher percentage of those killed was civilians then was really was

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Why is the US the only country in the world denying Israeli crimes in Gaza? That's how I know the UN no longer matters.

Because the rest of the world denies Palestinian crimes in Israel.

They... don’t. The ICC sought warrants for both Israeli and Palestinian leaders (at least one of the Palestinian leaders was subsequently killed by Israel, rendering any charges moot, but the ICC wasn't ignoring the alleged crimes.)

Similarly, many countries have sanctioned both Hamas (and/or other groups like PIJ, etc.) and/or individual Palestinians for acts against Israeli civilians as well as Israel and/or Israeli politicians for acts against Palestinian civilians.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Yes, politics always drives clicks. That is not OPs point though.

Agreed. If I want to see doom and gloom announcements about the current administration I'll go read Huffington Post or NY Times, thank you very much.

Why did you click on the comments and leave one? You could have just ignored it and let others discuss what they want.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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The US is complicit in the intentional starvation of gaza’s people by israel. At least 15 people have starved to death in the last 24 hours, including an infant. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-war-hunger-childre... Ragequitting UNESCO over their recognition of palestine is a small part of the project of supporting the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the west bank.

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Someday computers will be able to do basic arithmetic and people will learn that 95000/600 < 500.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Really? Every time I search for independent verification I am told it’s too hard to come up with anything conclusive.

What makes it too hard? Is there something stopping researchers and reporters from visiting and freely working in any areas of Palestine?

Yeah they get fucking shot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_journalists_in_the_...

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