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Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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By that point I was hoping Jessie got out of it all alive, because while he was clearly a dumbass with questionable morals, nobody deserved what he was going through, and the abuse he'd put up with at the hands of Walt among others. Walt was still fascinating to watch and maybe I approved of or disliked some of his individual actions, and we definitely had deep insight to his character by then, but I don't think I'd…

Hopefully this came across but I'm definitely not always rooting for either Tony Sorprano or Walter White. Like you say, you experience the story through these dubious characters. Especially on multiple watch throughs you can really come to despise them but the series are so well made that the writers can bring you round multiple times. There's something about the cognative disonence of how most people experience lif…

I wrote a response to this many times, you write some good points. I like how you can keep disconnected and non judgemental while somehow making it appear that both ordering from Temu and grand theft auto are similarly bad.

Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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30 Rock is one of the funniest and smartest TV shows of all time.

It's a perfect show. There are so many hilarious lines. My favorite has to be when tracy says "don't make me show you the back of my hand" and then on his hand is written "please be nice to me".

My second favorite show of all time (second only to Arrested Development). Many shows have memorable/quotable lines, but 30 Rock has more memorable lines per season than many shows do in their entire run. It is rapid fire on another level.

My favorite that I use on a regular basis, from Tracy: "I can't change! I'm like a chameleon -- always a lizard."

Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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I'd prefer to have "evil" as a word removed from language as an archaic symbolic reference to bad things that some people think that other other people do under the influence of malevolent supernatural beings. Redefining evil as something else is still clinging to the religious connotations like a baby to their nappy - for a reason: it's because it elevates my/our value systems from a mere subjective one to that a presumed spiritual realm, and therefore objective of sorts.

But the hard truth is that value systems are objectively subjective, and people can be confused, ignorant, frustrated, angry, insane, devoid of empathy, people we don't like, or our enemies - but not evil. It's time to let that term into the dustbin of history.

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I'd prefer to have "evil" as a word removed from language as an archaic symbolic reference to bad things that some people think that other other people do under the influence of malevolent supernatural beings. Redefining evil as something else is still clinging to the religious connotations like a baby to their nappy - for a reason: it's because it elevates my/our value systems from a mere subjective one to that a pr…

Objectively, Hitler was just ideologically assertive

Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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I'd prefer to have "evil" as a word removed from language as an archaic symbolic reference to bad things that some people think that other other people do under the influence of malevolent supernatural beings. Redefining evil as something else is still clinging to the religious connotations like a baby to their nappy - for a reason: it's because it elevates my/our value systems from a mere subjective one to that a pr…

Objectively, Hitler was just ideologically assertive

So, you need the supernatural connotations in order to explain that Hitler was bad? Feel free, but to me the problem is the anti-intellectualism of it. Because "evil" is a self-sufficient explanation, which doesn't explain any of the real reasons for the rise of Nazism and cloaks the fact that ethnic cleansing and genocide are very much human behaviors, which history has sadly proven again and again. We're not getting to grips with it by calling it "evil" (or "Evil!!" even), which is mere name-calling, essentially. Name-calling of others that is.

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No more or less evil than our one

Yes, as requested by the comment I replied to. Acknowledging the existence of a thing is not equivalent to condoning it.

Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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Hopefully this came across but I'm definitely not always rooting for either Tony Sorprano or Walter White. Like you say, you experience the story through these dubious characters. Especially on multiple watch throughs you can really come to despise them but the series are so well made that the writers can bring you round multiple times. There's something about the cognative disonence of how most people experience lif…

I wrote a response to this many times, you write some good points. I like how you can keep disconnected and non judgemental while somehow making it appear that both ordering from Temu and grand theft auto are similarly bad.

No one has mentioned Grand Theft Auto but you. I’m not sure why you’ve brought that up, it’s completely unrelated to the conversation.

Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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I wrote a response to this many times, you write some good points. I like how you can keep disconnected and non judgemental while somehow making it appear that both ordering from Temu and grand theft auto are similarly bad.

No one has mentioned Grand Theft Auto but you. I’m not sure why you’ve brought that up, it’s completely unrelated to the conversation.

> So someone that steals from cars blames the car's owner for leaving it

> unlocked. That rings true for me. They're not sociopaths, they're bending

> their reality to justify their actions.

Thse are your words,

Isn't a stolen car Known as GTA or "Auto theft" ?

Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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No one has mentioned Grand Theft Auto but you. I’m not sure why you’ve brought that up, it’s completely unrelated to the conversation.

> So someone that steals from cars blames the car's owner for leaving it > unlocked. That rings true for me. They're not sociopaths, they're bending > their reality to justify their actions. Thse are your words, Isn't a stolen car Known as GTA or "Auto theft" ?

Ah, I see the confusion. I think you've missed the word "from" there, as in some item taken from a car not the car itself.

Where I live using the words Grand Theft Auto, with that capitalisation, implies the video game of the same name. We don't have the crime of the same name (we call it Taking without Consent).

Since there's been quite a bit in the news about video game censorship, including GTA, I mistook your comment as trying to change the topic to that. My appologies.

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