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Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic

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Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic

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That example is not hallucination, it's just a homonym with insufficiently clear context for the model to disambiguate it.

I'm well aware mishearing "carots" as "carrots" is not a hallucination. That's an example I gave after having used Whisper, the topic of discussion.

An example of what you claimed was a hallucination

Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic

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> I can see how this might show that subtitles from online sub communities are used, or that maybe even original subtitles from e.g. DVDs are used. Indeed, the captioning is copyrighted work and you are not legally allowed to copy and redistribute it. > But isn't it already known and admitted (and allowed?) No, and I don't see where you got that from. Meta [1], OpenAI [2] and everybody else is being sued as we speak.…

> Indeed, the captioning is copyrighted work and you are not legally allowed to copy and redistribute it. Unless you qualify for one of the many exceptions, such as fair use

It’s not clear that training is fair use. That’s being contested in court I think.

Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic

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It's absolutely insane that these companies can't be held liable for what is obvious piracy.

That's the magic of money. Download your favorite artist's discography for personal use? If the MPAA had its way (and it occasionally has), torrenting that could bankrupt you. The AI industry - soaking up every bit of media available online for commercial purposes, often reproducing it nearly identically - has enough money and capital to influence things its way. And only its way, in case anyone was hoping this might…

court judges agree to this

Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic

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I've noticed this also happens in english Whisper models with the phrases: "[ sub by sk cn2 ]" or "Anyways, thanks for watching! Please subscribe and like! Thanks for watching! Bye!" or "This is the end of the video. Thank you for watching. If you enjoyed this video, please subscribe to the channel. Thank you."

Because they train on pirated media and or youtube videos, good method, until you get slop, or get caught

Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic

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The same happens with whisper-large-v3 on Chinese transcription: silence is transcribed to something like "please upvote, share and favourite this video". I suspect they trained the model on some random YouTube video without carefully picking really useful data.

In Chinese, it always added something like "For study/research purpose only. Please delete after 48 hours." This is what those volunteers added in subtitles of (pirated) movies/shows.

Fair, if AI companies are allowed to download pirated content for "learning", why ordinary people cannot.

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Title should be changed to "OpenAI publishes evidence they trained on pirated movies".

Of course. Piracy is legal when you have a bigger pile of money than the studios.

Let's not forget that some of real pirates (for example, corsairs) also were legal and performed legitimate pirate activities to ships of foreign countries.

Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic

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Ah, the good old "you're holding it wrong". What good is a speech recognition tool that literally hears imaginary voices?

> What good is a speech recognition tool that literally hears imaginary voices? Well, if it is supposed to work after silence detection, then it is good for speech recognition I guess. It's like blaming a wheel why is it circular, you can't sit on it. It's a part of a larger machine.

Just lay the wheel on its side and it makes a fine seat.

Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic

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The same happens with whisper-large-v3 on Chinese transcription: silence is transcribed to something like "please upvote, share and favourite this video". I suspect they trained the model on some random YouTube video without carefully picking really useful data.

When YouTube began building automatic transcriptions for captions, it regularly flagged any noise or music -- typically industrial noise -- with "[foreign]" If it couldn't understand it, it was "foreign" for the longest time.

Hey, Netflix occasionally still puts in its English subtitles "[foreign music]", it always cracks me up.
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