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Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by lemonwaterlime » Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 7:21 PM UTC

novia wrote: post #448

lemonwaterlime wrote: post #365

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You can make vegan cheeses with nut milk. Here is a video for vegan blue cheese[1]. The basic idea is nut milk and the culture for the blue cheese. [1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cxMAl_LiSUU&pp=ygUZR29ydW1ldCB... Channel is “Gourmet Vegetarian Kitchen”

Sorry, I wanted to know about the egg cheese

I posted this to give you another option since you can’t have milk at all. If you watch that channel, there’s lots of high quality recipes. Thus my sharing it with you.

Egg cheese recipes tend to have milk in them any way, so you would likely not avoid needing a milk substitute.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by throwaway7783 » Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 7:22 PM UTC

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By this logic all wars are justifiable. What a take!

I'm not sure how that justifies war. It just means that the outcome of a war can be better than if there never was a war. Obviously both sides in any given war believe that. Ask a few Ukrainians how that works, they can explain.

Yeah. Warring people always say that if their side wins the outcome will be better, of course. Look at Israle/Hamas

I was responding to gp, maybe wrong part of the thread. And how do they know in the absence of colonialism, but just trade, these countries couldn't/wouldn't become advanced? I can equally say colonialism is what has left many of these countries in poverty and border disputes.

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Post by saagarjha » Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 7:44 PM UTC

UltraSane wrote: post #587

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Just because something is evolutionarily advantageous doesn't mean everyone has to like it. Otherwise ace people would not exist at all…

This is the same kind of hardwired response that makes humans find the smell of rotten things disgusting.

I assure you that many vegan/vegetarian people feel the same way about meat. It is inherently repulsive because they have no experience with it or have lost its taste. This isn’t something that just reactivates because they’re hungry; you’d have to reacclimate them to meat before it will go away.

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Post by aydyn » Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 8:20 PM UTC

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In a blind taste test [1] people said "it kinda tastes like plastic". It's objectively bad. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYOCv-y8ckM&t=132s

These people know they're testing meat alternatives, so it's not blind — there are a lot of biases that come out as soon as you start talking about alternatives because people don't understand them. Anecdotally I've heard similar thoughts "I can taste the chemicals" from someone that didn't realize they were eating a handmade veggie burger made from chickpeas.

> These people know they're testing meat alternatives, so it's not blind

Did you miss the part where lots of people preferred Impossible over real beef? This is just cope lol.

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Post by burnt-resistor » Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 10:39 PM UTC

xeromal wrote: post #546

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I do a lot of stir frying on high heat. Olive oil would create plastic-like compounds at these temperatures.

I use avocado oil but even that can struggle with stir fry.

Yeap. I don't like using too much heat because then you're just creating toxic compounds to breathe in and eat unnecessarily. It takes longer but oh well. I really see the difference on AQM VoC and PM2.5 ans PM10 for various cooking techniques and ingredients.

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Post by boston_clone » Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 11:33 PM UTC

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Food is not just food : it's culture. These replacements have value because sometimes you want the thing that gives you that nostalgia kick or whatever specific feeling you associate with food. Old school plant based replacements don't always feel right for this.

This is a really important point that I think a lot of people who aren't vegan don't get. There might be an understanding that food is culture (lets order chinese, or italian), but realizing that's not a culture you experience but a culture you live. The first thing many new vegans ask is "what do I eat now?" The replacement food comes first, and beyond hits the mark a lot more than seitan does because we don't cultu…

Trust that vegans realize your assertion, but classify it in the same vein as "slavery is part of our culture, how dare you try and stop that!". It's cultural suffering that has no place in a modern society.

Of course things will Be Different. That's the Whole Point.

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Post by boston_clone » Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 11:36 PM UTC

itsoktocry wrote: post #339

mdaniel wrote: post #85

I know this is about Beyond but I figure the audience that would care about this article would be interested in looking at Juicy Marbles: https://juicymarbles.com/collections/all-products I've tried the thick cut filet and just like you're not going to mistake Impossible for actual burger, so too with the filet but it's a good texture and does help fill the longing for steak for me

Top two ingredients: engineered soy and sunflower oil. Yummy.

Quite the far cry from the rape and murder required of beef burgers, no?

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Post by boston_clone » Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 11:38 PM UTC

itsoktocry wrote: post #343

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Its way better than a bean burger IMHO. As a vegan, what I like most about Beyond burgers are that they are consistent, and pretty amazing at not being awful. If I'm in a random restaurant with a few token vegan options, the last thing I want to do is take a chance on some potentially terrible homemade bean or chickpea burger. If they have Beyond or Impossible, I know exactly what I'm getting.

Yes, you know exactly what you're getting: processed garbage.

Way better than dead animal flesh!

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Post by joshjob42 » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 1:51 AM UTC

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Ive never understood the drive to make meat substitutes instead of celebrating vegetarian cuisine. I’m not a vegetarian, but if I eat some dish that is vegetarian, why wouldn’t I want to celebrate the vegetable itself made from instead of trying to make some fake meat that never quite hits the mark?

I think the idea was that Beyond Meat would be a "transitional" product that would provide an ever growing vegetarian/vegan population an option that was familiar to them. For example, if you do not care about celebrating vegetables, and just want to end animal cruelty, but you miss the taste of meat, then a beyond burger was supposed to be for you. The biggest problem they have is the exhorbinant prices, which releg…

I think the idea was actually that it would give people who like the taste/texture/experience of meat an option to skip meat, and lower the bar for people to eat a more plant based diet, not cater to vegetarians or vegans.

I'm not vegetarian or vegan, but I think eating meat is morally terrible, I just can't be bothered to go through all the trouble to not eat or use animal products when they're everywhere, cheap, and taste fantastic. But I enjoy Impossible's products immensely, and follow the artificial meat and dairy field closely, and have been long a champion of these efforts so as to make it easy to not cause any harm to animals rather than it being a royal pain in the ass.

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Post by UltraSane » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 1:51 AM UTC

saagarjha wrote: post #613

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This is the same kind of hardwired response that makes humans find the smell of rotten things disgusting.

I assure you that many vegan/vegetarian people feel the same way about meat. It is inherently repulsive because they have no experience with it or have lost its taste. This isn’t something that just reactivates because they’re hungry; you’d have to reacclimate them to meat before it will go away.

And I simply don't find such claims plausible based on the facts of human evolution. Even someone who has never smelled putrid tissue before will find the smell revolting. Finding the smell of cooked meat appetizing is just as hard wired. It would make for a fascinating study. I wonder how they quantify salivation in a lab.