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Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

#72
Pardon an obvious comment but some developers using Facebook and Twitter for login don't get this: when you are only using FB and T for login then don't write your app to request any access rights at all to a user's FB and T data.

For example, why have your app request the access rights to post to a user's T stream?

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

#76
As an end user, I just don't end up knowing quite how my privacy is impacted when signing in through a third party site.

I signed up to a site only yesterday that gave me the option of signing in (or was that signing up - I haven't a clue...) with a yahoo account or a Facebook account, or an email address and password. I thought what the heck I'll sign in with my yahoo credentials. I then went back to Yahoo - and it gave me some message about authorisation and data sharing. What data is shared? Who knows. I didn't want anything shared, other than perhaps my email address. But why not explicitly say that?

So for me it's just a case of pure confusion, and the worry and fear that I've shared something that I didn't want to with another application - for example I wouldn't want to share my address book.

Another service I know of demands a Twitter login, as a result I don't use it. Which is annoying as I do want to use it. I can't be bothered to set up alternative Twitter accounts just for this purpose.

I guess that if I don't get it - and I have a technical background - then what hope does anyone else have? Or do punters just go about and blindly trust services with their data?

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

#78

This just further proves how disconnected Mark & Friends are from the real world. In real life, people talk very differently when they're: - around their friends - with their family - with their lover - in public - at work - online So this "one identity" + "real name policy" + "privacy is dead" nonsense is just disheartening. There will always be a need for humans to keep secrets, to have separate identities, to keep…

I agree. The need to share and talk differently with different people, is precisely the problem that Google tried to solve with their concept of circles in Google+. However, the fact that they also required real names and a single identity, makes it a partial and therefore ineffective solution.

One serious problem with the way Google+ does circles is that once you post something, you _cannot_ change whom you've shared it with.

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

#80

So, I understand that Facebook et al are more popular options, but I am noticing that OpenID in particular is really losing momentum. Personally I really liked the idea of OpenID, so I'm just wondering, from the point of view of web developers, what is it about OpenID that makes you not want to use it? Or is it just that Facebook is overwhelmingly more popular as a login method so it's not worth it?

...and sadly BrowserID never took off.

I think you meant OpenID.

BrowserID is new, and awesome. My fear is that a good universal login needs to support both Mobile Safari and Google Chrome on Android, and due to their childish fighting, it's unlikely anything client side can work on both, to the detriment of users and Internet security as a whole.

Desktop browsers are a lot easier (extensions, and browser choice), but mobile/tablets makes this all a lot harder than it was a few years ago. :(

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