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Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by pitchups »

ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #38

This just further proves how disconnected Mark & Friends are from the real world. In real life, people talk very differently when they're: - around their friends - with their family - with their lover - in public - at work - online So this "one identity" + "real name policy" + "privacy is dead" nonsense is just disheartening. There will always be a need for humans to keep secrets, to have separate identities, to keep…

I agree. The need to share and talk differently with different people, is precisely the problem that Google tried to solve with their concept of circles in Google+. However, the fact that they also required real names and a single identity, makes it a partial and therefore ineffective solution.

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by awj »

ams6110 wrote: post #49

If your only login option is Facebook, I won't use your service. Full stop. I don't have a Facebook account, and I certainly won't get one to be able to log in somewhere else.

I do have a Facebook account, and I have basically the same policy.

Facebook is for me to chat with friends and all of us to post photos we may or may not regret when we sober up. I neither need nor want to tie any more of my life to it.

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by fotoblur »

At my current job all the project managers think our users are so promiscuous with their online activities that they'll use services like Facebook for just about anything (Events, RSVP, etc).

However, from talking directly with some of our user's most of them are telling me they avoid these features because they don't understand what the long term effects might be. Apps who have abused Facebook and stories about potential privacy concerns in the media have left a bad impression on them regardless of what Facebook has done to 'fix' the problem.

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by radarsat1 »

So, I understand that Facebook et al are more popular options, but I am noticing that OpenID in particular is really losing momentum. Personally I really liked the idea of OpenID, so I'm just wondering, from the point of view of web developers, what is it about OpenID that makes you not want to use it? Or is it just that Facebook is overwhelmingly more popular as a login method so it's not worth it?

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by aristidb »

hartleybrody wrote: post #22

Whenever I used to demo one of my old projects, the immediate feedback I'd get from most "advisors" was something along the lines of, "oh, you don't offer Facebook signup. Why not?" I think the underlying assumption was that using Facebook login would make it easier to make the site "go viral" because we could more easily spam our user's networks. I always cringed at this idea from my own personal experience, and fro…

But they're not saying that offering Facebook logins is bad. Just that _forcing_ people to log in with Facebook and not offering an alternative is.

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by drjacobs »

radarsat1 wrote: post #54

So, I understand that Facebook et al are more popular options, but I am noticing that OpenID in particular is really losing momentum. Personally I really liked the idea of OpenID, so I'm just wondering, from the point of view of web developers, what is it about OpenID that makes you not want to use it? Or is it just that Facebook is overwhelmingly more popular as a login method so it's not worth it?

I think OpenID is simply not understood by enough people.

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by adgar »

lachenmayer wrote: post #16
jonchang wrote: post #10

People also hate having to create a new username/password combination for every single web service they want to try.

I'd say most people have one username/password combination they use for every service. On mobile devices, having to sign up with an email and password is a bit of a hassle, and Facebook/Twitter login makes more sense.

Anecdata point (new favorite word) from someone who in theory should "know better": I have my corporate password, a bank password, personal email password, and one I've been using literally 80% of my life for all the other sites. It's got a Couple variations to get around silly restrictions. In its base form, it's a 6 letter dictionary word. Why? I don't care! I don't want to devote any more energy to the problem than strictly necessary and those sites aren't getting any data I care much about.

PS: 2 factor for corporate account and personal email

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by Kilimanjaro »

radarsat1 wrote: post #54

So, I understand that Facebook et al are more popular options, but I am noticing that OpenID in particular is really losing momentum. Personally I really liked the idea of OpenID, so I'm just wondering, from the point of view of web developers, what is it about OpenID that makes you not want to use it? Or is it just that Facebook is overwhelmingly more popular as a login method so it's not worth it?

...and sadly BrowserID never took off.

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by tubbo »

Interesting how they have identified hackers to be more inclined to "connect with Facebook". Personally, I connect to Facebook when it's convenient, purely out of convenience. It's easier to not have to maintain so many damn passwords, especially for stuff like commenting on a blog I will never visit again.

Re: Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook

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Post by tubbo »

Interesting how they have identified hackers to be more inclined to "connect with Facebook". Personally, I connect to Facebook when it's convenient, purely out of convenience. It's easier to not have to maintain so many damn passwords, especially for stuff like commenting on a blog I will never visit again.
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