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Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by oblio »

stillpointlab wrote: post #477
a5c11 wrote: post #469

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> I disagree that being less precise is a flaw. > Biological evolution shows us how far you can get with "good enough". That are valid points when speaking about human-human interactions where we can allow ourselves for much more freedom in forming thoughts. But still, written text never will be as expressive as face to face communication when you can hear, see and feel emotions. So even for humans, a raw text is not…

> Natural language is not sufficient to give precise instructions On consideration, this is the core of our disagreement and it is probably one that we will not see past. I have to assume that you see human/computer interactions as master-slave relations. You are the master providing instructions and the computer is a slave that MUST do precisely what you instruct it to do. I would wager that you feel frustrated when…

> I have to assume that you see human/computer interactions as master-slave relations.

Surely you mean "controller-agent"? Bzzzt, natural language check failed :-)

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by oblio »

chrisvalleybay wrote: post #377
ghuntley wrote: post #277

Source code analysis [and dump] of Kiro at https://ghuntley.com/amazon-kiro-source-code/ - Uses ripgrep under the hood - VSCode fork (thus suffers from the https://ghuntley.com/fracture problem) - There are 14 different ways defined to edit a file due to its multi-modal design. Tuning this is going to be a constant source of headaches for the team. - Kiro utilises a https://ghuntley.com/specs based workflow.

Not sure why you are being downvoted. I appreciate this!

Probably for self promotion.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by lackjeeb »

angelmm wrote: post #28

Many companies are considering IDEs the way to reach developers. Atom started the trend of next generation IDEs and VSCode consolidated most of the market. With the AI raising, people are looking to get usage, gathering data, and positioning models. An IDE provides you all of that. AI seems to be a way to engage happy users to try new things. Kiro joins a growing list of projects: - Kiro (AWS) - VSCode + Copilot (Mic…

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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by tdhttt »

Cool project. Call me pessimist but all of these workflow/scaffolding/hooks are being absorbed by the model makers like ChatGPT and Anthropic. In fact, my personal setup with Claude Code is somewhat similar to this setup, except I bend it in CLAUDE.MD

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by kirso »

NathanKP wrote: post #55
postalcoder wrote: post #41

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I don't know if this is feedback for Kiro per se or more feedback for this category of applications as a whole, but I've personally noticed that the biggest barrier holding me back from giving an earnest look at new coding agents are the custom rules I've set up w/ my existing agents. I have extensively used Copilot, Continue, Cursor, Cline, Aider, Roo Code, and Claude Code. I've just finished porting my rules over t…

You will be happy to find out that Kiro is quite good at this! One of my favorite features is "Steering Rules". Kiro can help you write steering rules for your projects, and the steering rules that it auto generates are actually super great for large projects. You can see some examples of auto generated steering files here in one of my open source projects: https://github.com/kirodotdev/spirit-of-kiro/tree/main/.kiro…

One issue that I am facing with Kiro is that keeps rewriting these rules when in spec mode, even though I already have my PRD and tasks.json to reference.

Was it built to only adhere to what is in .kiro folder?

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by icereed »

NathanKP wrote: post #5

Hello folks! I've been working on Kiro for nearly a year now. Happy to chat about some of the things that make it unique in the IDE space. We've added a few powerful things that I think make it a bit different from other similar AI editors. In specific, I'm really proud of "spec driven development", which is based on the internal processes that software development teams at Amazon use to build very large technical pr…

Hey Nathan,

I love this approach using specs and steering. Just curious how it would work in a huge monorepo with many apps and packages in one physical repo. Several hundred devs work with that repo.

Is it possible to have two layers of steering, which is monorepo specific and then app specific? And also regarding specs, would the different apps and teams interfere with each other?

Best, Icereed

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by sahilagarwal »

Waterluvian wrote: post #342
m0llusk wrote: post #312

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Is there a way to confirm this works or do we just have to trust that settings will be honored?

Just like using an AI model, you can’t actually know for sure that it won’t do anything malicious with what interfaces you give it access to. You just have to trust it.

Isn't that true for every piece of software you use? Reflections on trusting trust (https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rdriley/487/papers/Thompson_1984_Ref...) was one of the formative papers of my software engineering career.
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