OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

Post by riku_iki » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 4:58 PM UTC

miguelacevedo wrote: post #271

mikert89 wrote: post #133

The cynicism/denial on HN about AI is exhausting. Half the comments are some weird form of explaining away the ever increasing performance of these models I've been reading this website for probably 15 years, its never been this bad. many threads are completely unreadable, all the actual educated takes are on X, its almost like there was a talent drain

Basically this. Not sure why people here love to doubt AI progress as it clearly makes strides

Post by bluecalm » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 4:59 PM UTC

azan_ wrote: post #200

bluecalm wrote: post #190

My view is that it's less impressive than previous go and chess results. Humans are worse at competitive math than at those games, it's still very limited space and well defined problems. They may hype "general purpose" as much as they want but for now it's still the case that AI is super human at well defined limited space tasks and can't achieve performance of a mediocre below average human at simple tasks without…

The scope and creativity required for IMO is much bigger than chess/GO. Also IMO is taken VERY seriously. It's a huge deal, much bigger than any chess or go tournaments.

Post by aluminum96 » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 5:00 PM UTC

emp17344 wrote: post #169

yunwal wrote: post #151

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What does this have to do with the math Olympiad? Why would it frame your view of the accomplishment?

Why don’t they release some info beyond a vague twitter hype post? I’m beginning to hate OpenAI for releasing statements like this that invariably end up being less impressive than they make it sound initially.

Post by literatepeople » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 5:05 PM UTC

kilna wrote: post #262

uludag wrote: post #212

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Cynicism and denial are two very different things, and have very different causes and justifications. I personally don't deny that LLMs are very powerful and are capable and capable of eliminating many jobs. At the same time I'm very cynical about the rollout and push for AI. I don't see in any way as a push for a "better" society or towards some notion of progress, but rather an enthusiastic effort to disempower emp…

AI is kerosene. A useful resource when applied with reason and compassion. Late stage capitalism is a dumpster full of garbage. AI in combination with late stage capitalism is a dumpster fire. Many, perhaps most people conflate the dumpster fire with "kerosine evil!"

Post by aluminum96 » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 5:08 PM UTC

johnecheck wrote: post #74

constantcrying wrote: post #67

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>if OpenAI ran this 10000 times in parallel and cherry-picked the best one, this is a lot less exciting. That entirely depends on who did the cherry picking. If the LLM had 10000 attempts and each time a human had to falsify it, this story means absolutely nothing. If the LLM itself did the cherry picking, then this is just akin to a human solving a hard problem. Attempting solutions and falsifying them until the des…

The key bit here is whether the LLM doing the cherry picking had knowledge of the solution. If it didn't, this is a meaningful result. That's why I'd like more info, but I fear OpenAI is going to try to keep things under wraps.