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OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

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Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

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The cynicism/denial on HN about AI is exhausting. Half the comments are some weird form of explaining away the ever increasing performance of these models I've been reading this website for probably 15 years, its never been this bad. many threads are completely unreadable, all the actual educated takes are on X, its almost like there was a talent drain

The overconfidence/short sightedness on HN about AI is exhausting. Half the comments are some weird form of explaining how developers will be obsolete in five years and how close we are to AGI.

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Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

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How is a claim , "clear evidence" to anything?

Most evidence you have about the world is claims from other people, not direct experiment. There seems to be a thought-terminating cliche here on HN, dismissing any claim from employees of large tech companies. Unlike seemingly most here on HN, I judge people's trustworthiness individually and not solely by the organization they belong to. Noam Brown is a well known researcher in the field and I see no reason to doub…

OpenAI have already shown us they aren’t trustworthy. Remember the FrontierMath debacle?

Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

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Nobody knows the answers to these questions. Relying on AGI solving problems like climate change seems like a risky strategy but on the other hand it’s very plausible that these tools can help in some capacity. So we have to build, study and find out but also consider any opportunity cost of building these tools versus others.

Solving climate change isn't a technical problem, but a human one. We know the steps we have to take, and have for many years. The hard part is getting people to actually do them. No human has any idea how to accomplish that. If a machine could, we would all have much to learn from it.

I disagree with this assessment. We don’t know the steps we have to take. We know a set of steps we could take but they’re societally unpalatable. Technology can potentially offer alternative steps or introduce societal changes that make the first set of steps more palatable.

Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

#184

The AI scaling that went on for the last five years is going to be very different from the scaling that will happen in the next ten years. These models have latent capabilities that we are racing to unearth. IMO is but one example. There’s so much to do at inference time. This result could not have been achieved without the substrate of general models. Its not like Go or protein folding. You need the collective publi…

Yup, we have bootstrapped to enough intelligence in the models that we can introduce higher levels of ai

Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

#186

The AI scaling that went on for the last five years is going to be very different from the scaling that will happen in the next ten years. These models have latent capabilities that we are racing to unearth. IMO is but one example. There’s so much to do at inference time. This result could not have been achieved without the substrate of general models. Its not like Go or protein folding. You need the collective publi…

Latent??

If you looked at RLHF hiring over the last year, there was a huge hiring of IMO competitors to RLHF. This was a new, highly targeted, highly funded RLHF’ing.

Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

#187

The cynicism/denial on HN about AI is exhausting. Half the comments are some weird form of explaining away the ever increasing performance of these models I've been reading this website for probably 15 years, its never been this bad. many threads are completely unreadable, all the actual educated takes are on X, its almost like there was a talent drain

The overconfidence/short sightedness on HN about AI is exhausting. Half the comments are some weird form of explaining how developers will be obsolete in five years and how close we are to AGI.

Incredible how many HNers cannot see this comment for what it is.

Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

#188

The cynicism/denial on HN about AI is exhausting. Half the comments are some weird form of explaining away the ever increasing performance of these models I've been reading this website for probably 15 years, its never been this bad. many threads are completely unreadable, all the actual educated takes are on X, its almost like there was a talent drain

Makes sense. Everyone here has their pride and identity tied to their ability to code. HN likes to upvote articles related to IQ because coding correlates with IQ and HNers like to think they are smart.

AI is of course a direct attack on the average HNers identity. The response you see is like attacking a Christian on his religion.

The pattern of defense is typical. When someone’s identity gets attacked they need to defend their identity. But their defense also needs to seem rational to themselves. So they begin scaffolding a construct of arguments that in the end support their identity. They take the worst aspects of AI and form a thesis around it. And that becomes the basis of sort of building a moat around their old identity as an elite programmer genius.

Tell tale sign you or someone else is doing this is when you are talking about AI and someone just comments about how they aren’t afraid of AI taking over their own job when it wasn’t even directly the topic.

If you say like ai is going to lessen the demand for software engineering jobs the typical thing you here is “I’m not afraid of losing my job” and I’m like bro, I’m not talking about your job specifically, I’m not talking about you or your fear of losing a job I’m just talking about the economics of the job market. This is how you know it’s an identity thing more than a technical topic.

Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

#189
I don't know how much novelty should you expect from IMO every year but i expect many of them be variation of the same problem.

These models are trained on all old problem and their various solutions.For LLM models, solving thses problems are as impressive as writing code.

There is no high generalization.

Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

#190
My view is that it's less impressive than previous go and chess results. Humans are worse at competitive math than at those games, it's still very limited space and well defined problems. They may hype "general purpose" as much as they want but for now it's still the case that AI is super human at well defined limited space tasks and can't achieve performance of a mediocre below average human at simple tasks without those limitations like driving a car.

Nice result but it's just another game humans got beaten at. This time a game which isn't even taken very seriously (in comparison to ones that have professional scene).

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