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Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Post by kjkjadksj »

raincole wrote: post #308
kjkjadksj wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if you used your mastercard to buy valvebucks you spend on whatever the hell you want in the steam store?

You can do that currently. Steam already supports the exact process you described: top up your steam wallet and buy games with steam wallet balance. Actually, there are things you can only buy this way (some in-game items, not sure if it's to workaround gambling accusation or just coded so for no reason). The issue is Visa/Mastercard/whoever is pressuring Valve isn't happy about the very existence of incest games. Th…

So are they banning erotic fiction books too or what? I guess the tradwifes actually secretly read that stuff though…

Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Post by johnb231 »

bigyabai wrote: post #383
johnb231 wrote: post #369

They blacklisted games that feature incest. Good riddance. This trash should never have been allowed on Steam.

Clearly Steam disagreed. I don't see any publishers who were angry.

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Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Post by kjkjadksj »

tptacek wrote: post #252
kjkjadksj wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No issues buying Marlboro reds with the credit card of course.

Have you ever returned a pack of cigarettes? They basically do what you expect them to do.

I figured the reason was not wanting to support something harmful to the customer like a fake diet pill. Call me naive for letting that assumption of even a glimmer of empathy affect my guestimation. I should have known it was pure greed all the way down and due to something like this instead.

Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Post by scott_w »

tempodox wrote: post #343
Aeolun wrote: post #282

I think it’s hilarious we allow stuff like Postal or Soldier of Fortune without a question, where the whole focus is on going crazy and murdering a whole bunch of people. But try to show a sensual human body, instead of one that’s ripped into small pieces, and oh my god, this is going too far!

Same with movies. Piles of dead bodies are OK for children to watch but naked skin would be highly damaging.

I mean, these films usually get rated 15 or 18 in the UK, so I’d not say it’s “OK for children to watch.”

Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Aeolun wrote: post #282

I think it’s hilarious we allow stuff like Postal or Soldier of Fortune without a question, where the whole focus is on going crazy and murdering a whole bunch of people. But try to show a sensual human body, instead of one that’s ripped into small pieces, and oh my god, this is going too far!

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Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Post by jojobas »

oatmeal1 wrote: post #366
Aeolun wrote: post #282

I think it’s hilarious we allow stuff like Postal or Soldier of Fortune without a question, where the whole focus is on going crazy and murdering a whole bunch of people. But try to show a sensual human body, instead of one that’s ripped into small pieces, and oh my god, this is going too far!

Gender of who is murdered has a lot to do with it too. I don't think you'll find a video game where you predominantly kill women. The most infamous scene of murder in video games is the Call of Duty mission "No Russian" where you optionally commit terrorism at an airport. If you pay attention you'll notice they kill much more men than women, and made sure that despite pleasant weather none of the women were wearing d…

Then you have an open world game where you can do all sorts of insane stuff, but everyone loses their shit specifically over feeding suffragettes to alligators.

Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Post by _345 »

thallium205 wrote: post #337
Aeolun wrote: post #282

I think it’s hilarious we allow stuff like Postal or Soldier of Fortune without a question, where the whole focus is on going crazy and murdering a whole bunch of people. But try to show a sensual human body, instead of one that’s ripped into small pieces, and oh my god, this is going too far!

Adult content is considered a high risk merchant category - meaning it is susceptible to high chargeback and fraud rates. This is because after someone pays for and consumes adult content, a certain level of "clarity" overcomes them resulting in the execution of chargebacks against the merchant. It has nothing to do with any sort of puritanical premise.

Just plain wrong and a puritanical group already claimed responsibility for this

Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Post by tptacek »

Ygg2 wrote: post #375
tptacek wrote: post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could just ask, "why do payment processors pressure content vendors not to offer this kind of content". You're starting from the premise that there's some weird puritan thing happening, but there's really nothing puritan about American business culture. There are other explanations! You can get a long ways just by assuming that the people involved in these transactions are utterly amoral .

> You can get a long ways just by assuming that the people involved in these transactions are utterly amoral. Which begs the question. Why would amoral people decline cash?

Because, in expectation, they're going to lose money.
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