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Re: New Firefox Command Line helps you develop faster

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Post by dangoor »

netfire wrote: post #25
nathan_long wrote: post #18

Wow. This may make switch back to Firefox from Chrome as my develoment browser. Bravo, Mozilla!

Agreed. Very cool. I do wish it had better integration with the web console though. It just seems strange when you pop-up the web console tab to have a JS prompt for entering javascript directly above a Browser prompt for controlling the browser. It'd be nice if you could just go into a javascript entry mode on the browser prompt itself and see the output appear in the web console. Even something as simple as adding…

Indeed, we're working on a view that holds all of the tools together and debating about how we want to handle JS entry.

Re: New Firefox Command Line helps you develop faster

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Post by dangoor »

goodside wrote: post #46
sp332 wrote: post #6

I wonder if this shares code with the promising-but-defunct Ubiquity project? https://vimeo.com/1561578 Edit: if you don't feel like watching a video, here's what it's about: http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/ubiquity-in-depth/

No, it does not. I've been casually following the development of GCLI (formerly known as "Cockpit") for a while now. It started as a debugging component of the Ace editor.

In some respects, it goes farther back than that. IIRC, Bespin had a command line in early 2009 when I started working on it.

Re: New Firefox Command Line helps you develop faster

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Post by dangoor »

mhitza wrote: post #9
sp332 wrote: post #6

I wonder if this shares code with the promising-but-defunct Ubiquity project? https://vimeo.com/1561578 Edit: if you don't feel like watching a video, here's what it's about: http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/ubiquity-in-depth/

I've had so much hope in Ubiquity; let's hope this will get a nicer model for writing extensions and a "package" manager (I'd love something like Sublime2 has).

Firefox already has a package manager, doesn't it? You pick up the "packages" here: http://addons.mozilla.org/

Re: New Firefox Command Line helps you develop faster

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Post by dangoor »

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #30

And yet firebug is still the better console. Why do fancy things like tilt and this input box have priority over getting basic things like the console output under control? Just look at this example side by side and tell me which one you prefer: http://i.imgur.com/tKr87.png

I have a good reason for wanting this to land "earlyish" – to encourage the creation of more commands and full command access to the tools. If the command line is there and seeded with a few commands, people will start adding more (both for built-in tools and add-ons)

Re: New Firefox Command Line helps you develop faster

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Post by dangoor »

fuzzix wrote: post #52
conradfr wrote: post #14

It made me go look in the menu and discovered the new Responsive design mode in FF15, it will be a valuable tool.

Looks quite useful, though I didn't see a way to customise the view port dimensions - it appears to lack common phone screen resolutions.

There's a bug in bugzilla for that. Also, I think you'll find that the whole issue of "common phone screen resolutions" is actually painfully complicated. The iPhones, for example, report their resolution as half the actual resolution (in each dimension).

You can resize the view port to whatever size you want, even in Firefox 15. The resize handle is a little dark in 15, though.

Re: New Firefox Command Line helps you develop faster

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Post by dangoor »

arnarbi wrote: post #10

Every app should have this.

That's my feeling, too. I really like that in Sublime Text I can hit a shortcut that launches any of the random commands available in the editor.

I would probably amend the statement to be "Every app for programmers should have this."

Re: New Firefox Command Line helps you develop faster

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Post by mayanksinghal »

(This is way off the topic, but I am way too curious to ignore and couldn't satisfy my curiosity myself, so) Is the title of the article getting rendered differently (different font) than in other pages, in Google Chrome?

Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/tWAXr.jpg

Re: New Firefox Command Line helps you develop faster

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Post by mhitza »

dangoor wrote: post #63
mhitza wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had so much hope in Ubiquity; let's hope this will get a nicer model for writing extensions and a "package" manager (I'd love something like Sublime2 has).

Firefox already has a package manager, doesn't it? You pick up the "packages" here: http://addons.mozilla.org/

Firefox has a package manager, but Ubiquity didn't. Instead you embedded some meta tags in your webpage pointing out the Ubiquity extensions and following that page you'd get an installation.

There wasn't a central repository for Ubiquity.

Re: New Firefox Command Line helps you develop faster

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Post by arnarbi »

dangoor wrote: post #66
arnarbi wrote: post #10

Every app should have this.

That's my feeling, too. I really like that in Sublime Text I can hit a shortcut that launches any of the random commands available in the editor. I would probably amend the statement to be "Every app for programmers should have this."

Not just programmers. AutoCAD has had this kind of interface always, and it is absolutely the best/fastest way for power users to make drawings. Integrating nicely textual commands, prompts and mouse usage works very well there.

Looking at proficient Excel users (I always claimed if my ex-wife got a basic course in operating systems principles, she would write one in Excel in a week :) = they tend to do everything by keyboard, and not in terms of shortcuts or chords, but entering commands. I also worked in a printing shop, and people working in layout program such as InDesign all day, would do everything by keyboard also - entering coordinates, align constraints, style names - and they were only slowed down by having to navigate all those little input boxes.

I also worked for a couple of years editing video in non-linear editing programs (Media 100, Premiere), and boy does this work get repetitive at times. I would have loved to have the ability to do things programmatically.

So, I think any power user could benefit from a command line driven interface in applications like those. Photoshop, non-linear video editing, computer aided design, layout, word processing, and even web browsing - I could see this option used by all kinds of people.

Re: New Firefox Command Line helps you develop faster

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Post by nameuserc »

lloeki wrote: post #58
nameuserc wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

kernel: a central, essential part of something paraphrasing the dictionary definition the meaning is similar in both contexts you mention. indeed if we asked someone who did not know what an "os kernel" was, they might think of the meaning they do know: e.g., the innermost part of a seed of a cereal or nut and they might guess based on what they know. have you ever heard the phrase "the computer program has become no…

responsive: able to respond to something Guess what, a responsive layout responds to media/container size variations, just like a computer program responds (or stops responding in your example) to user or system signals.

Is it a coincidence they had to link the term "responsive design" to a Wikipedia entry?

Is it not self-evident what "responsive design" means?

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