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NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

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Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

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Wow, NYPD is full of people who support Israel?

The article says he was suspected of hate crime assault. Then the police has a duty to act. Edit: While I said "duty" I meant that I really hope the that the police investigate all allegations of hate crime assault properly.

The police has absolutely no duty to act whatsoever. See Warren v. District of Columbia.

Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Don’t post your photos on social media” is precisely describing a chilling effect on people’s expression, i.e. the exact thing the First Amendment is designed to protect against.

If a user is willingly uploading their photos to a private company to be publicly shared, how does 1A apply?

I think the suggestion is that the government use of that public data could be such as to create a chilling effect. That is, the upload and interaction of the user with the private company is almost irrelevant: it is just part of the antecedent to the government's conduct.

If you believe the government would only use that data for just purposes then you probably wouldn't then believe that there is a 1A issue. But if you think the government would use it to identify persons at a protest and then take adverse actions against them on the basis of their presence alone (which to be clear, seems distinguished from the immediate instance) you would probably think there is a 1A issue.

Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember a case (in Eastern Europe) where someone who took a video of their colleagues sleeping during a night shift got in trouble for the usage of phone (which is known to be used BTW), and nothing happened to the ones sleeping through the night shift. We are talking about a facility full of people with dementia and are known to go back and forth the hospital for serious falls and all that (at night, too). So bac…

Which is in some ways similar to the case in this article. The police violated department policy to identify the student who hurled a rock at another student . And the article is somehow painting the rock-throwing attacker as a victim, even talking about the attacker's complaints that they were identified and are now receiving hate mail.

Yes?

The person hit by the rock is a victim of whomever threw it, be this person or another.

And this person is the victim of the police department's policy violation.

These things can coexist.

Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

#55
post #30

Wow, NYPD is full of people who support Israel?

The article says he was suspected of hate crime assault. Then the police has a duty to act. Edit: While I said "duty" I meant that I really hope the that the police investigate all allegations of hate crime assault properly.

"reduced to a misdemeanor of second degree aggravated harassment" so it looks like the charge was exaggerated in the 1st place. The media and authorities tend to portray Zionist provocateurs as the second coming of Anne Frank when they get into trouble. Something similar happened when Israeli soccer hooligans got roughed up in Amsterdam.

Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

#56

The company used, Clearview AI, collects publicly available imagery. It would be different if the government was providing it. Here's an idea: maybe don't post your photos on social media. Still scary nonetheless.

Whats next? Innocent people don't have anything to hide?

Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

#57
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cause israel. The fire marshal probably is pro-israel or israel has dirt on him. All because of a protest against a foreign country committing acts of genocide. It's unbelievable when you think about it.

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Just because it was written does not make it true. Cops have come up with all sorts of excuses to justify their criminal behavior including just plain old “I’m a cop” defense.

Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

#58

The company used, Clearview AI, collects publicly available imagery. It would be different if the government was providing it. Here's an idea: maybe don't post your photos on social media. Still scary nonetheless.

> Here's an idea: maybe don't post your photos on social media.

Right. Also make sure your friends don't. And your family. Good luck with that.

Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

#59
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cause israel. The fire marshal probably is pro-israel or israel has dirt on him. All because of a protest against a foreign country committing acts of genocide. It's unbelievable when you think about it.

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One thing's for sure, it always starts with the "terrorists" and "pedophiles". But it would never be used against someone like you, would it?

Turkeys voting for Thanksgiving is what this is.

Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

#60
post #3

>A city fire marshal used FDNY’s access to a facial recognition software to help NYPD detectives identify a pro-Palestinian protester at Columbia University, circumventing policies that tightly restrict the Police Department’s use of the technology. Why does the fire department need access to run facial recognition?

It is not so important that the fire marshal has facial recognition, because the office chose that option because access was then free of charge and a mere handshake to them. If not the fire marshal, some independent 3rd party. This is a known trivial loophole to facial recognition bans. (Former lead dev of globally leading FR system.)
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