We all got excited and threw a rock once or twice in our youth
NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester
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#22How many rights will we be asked to give up in order to squash anti-war sentiment?
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#23>bypassed ban Broke the law is the phrase we want here. They did an illegal thing. They didn't just scoot past a barrier, they violated people's rights.
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A secondary question: what rights do you have when someone else does that? What rights _should_ you have in that situation?
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#24Wow, NYPD is full of people who support Israel?
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
The cop emailed the Fire Marshal who technically does investigations for stuff like arson. Maybe that's the justification for it, not sure.
Same operating model of law enforcement laundering their data requests on the Flock Safety/Group ALPR platform through adjacent agencies who have access. My hot take is this should be a termination and criminal offense in public employment (as a cybersecurity/risk mgmt practitioner).
Or Five Eyes doing data sharing between themselves which 'incidentally' bypasses domestic surveillance laws
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/20/us-uk-secret-d...
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#26The company used, Clearview AI, collects publicly available imagery. It would be different if the government was providing it. Here's an idea: maybe don't post your photos on social media. Still scary nonetheless.
“Don’t post your photos on social media” is precisely describing a chilling effect on people’s expression, i.e. the exact thing the First Amendment is designed to protect against.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
>They didn't just scoot past a barrier, they violated people's rights. Claiming that an administrative policy against using facial recognition as a "right" seems like a stretch.
> Claiming that an administrative policy against using facial recognition as a "right" seems like a stretch. This is such strange way to describe "right for privacy".
Hurling a rock at someone is privacy now?
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
But it's not really a "right". The next police commissioner/mayor could conceivably overturn it if they wanted to. That's not the same as most other "rights", free speech for instance. More importantly to this case, because the police only violated a policy and not a constitutional right, the defense can't apply to have the evidence tossed under the exclusionary rule.
I remember a case (in Eastern Europe) where someone who took a video of their colleagues sleeping during a night shift got in trouble for the usage of phone (which is known to be used BTW), and nothing happened to the ones sleeping through the night shift. We are talking about a facility full of people with dementia and are known to go back and forth the hospital for serious falls and all that (at night, too). So bac…
Which is in some ways similar to the case in this article. The police violated department policy to identify the student who hurled a rock at another student. And the article is somehow painting the rock-throwing attacker as a victim, even talking about the attacker's complaints that they were identified and are now receiving hate mail.
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#29The company used, Clearview AI, collects publicly available imagery. It would be different if the government was providing it. Here's an idea: maybe don't post your photos on social media. Still scary nonetheless.
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#30Wow, NYPD is full of people who support Israel?
The article says he was suspected of hate crime assault. Then the police has a duty to act.
Edit: While I said "duty" I meant that I really hope the that the police investigate all allegations of hate crime assault properly.