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Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by wongarsu »

darylteo wrote: post #153
spongebobstoes wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

most inference runs at 40%+ margin

Is this like saying a gym runs at 40%+ margin because 80% of users don't really use it heavily or forget they even had a subscription? Would be interested to see the breakdown of that number.

That's how nearly every subscription service works, yes. Some fraction has a subscription and doesn't use it, another large chunk only uses a fraction of their usage limits, and a tiny fraction uses the service to it's full potential. Almost no subscription would be profitable if every customer used it to its full potential

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by jmartrican »

edg5000 wrote: post #180
jmartrican wrote: post #9

I have the $100 plan and now quickly get downgraded to Sonnet. But so far have not hit any other limits. I use it more on the weekends over several hours, so lets see what this weekend has in store. I suspected that something like this might happen, where the demand will outstrip the supply and squeeze small players out. I still think demand is in its infancy and that many of us will be forced to pay a lot more. Unle…

You are using the "auto-switch back to Sonnet" mode right? Try just selecting Opus without the auto-switch, probably you'll get more Opus and may not run out of it. Anthropic is just being careful because Opus eats compute and they don't want people getting disappointed. But for me it does not run out that quickly. Only when I asked it to work on a 50k+ source code file, which it had to ingest entirely in my case, is…

Oh wow I didnt even know about that. Yeah it auto switches. I'll change the config.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by boesboes »

Yeah, i noticed it falls back to sonnet much quicker too. Most days within the first few minutes.

And the 529.. it's borderline unusable at times.

But the worst part: While claude code, the tools and cli etc, has become much better over the last weeks; it seems the models or prompts have gotten worse. It will do things like add a test, see that it fails, claim it was already broken and out of scope. Or maybe i ask it to implement this, DO NOT use Y. Use Y anyway. Sometimes i ask it to update a test & it decides to revert all changes in the application code.

I am very close to cancelling my plan again. Maybe it is a great deal when comparing too api pricing, but that is not a fair comparison; prepaid/pay-as-you-go is always way more expensive. And if they priced it wrong, change the pricing? Degrading a new service you are developing to save cost is even more stupid then the burn money until ??? profit stats imo hehe

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by wongarsu »

alphager wrote: post #63
pembrook wrote: post #49

The funny thing is Claude 4.0 isn't even that 'smart' from a raw intelligence perspective compared to the other flagship models. They've just done the work to tailor it specifically for proper tool using during coding. Once other models catch up, they will not be able to be so stingy on limits. Google has the advantage here given they're running on their own silicon; can optimize for it; and have nearly unlimited cas…

Even if Moore's law was still in effect and the computer resources required stayed the same and compute stayed as efficient per watt (neither is true), it would just halve compute costs every 18 months. You're able to read about people hitting $4000 costs/month on the $200 plan upthread. That's 8 years until it's cost effective. Are they really ready to burn money for 8 years?

Every subscription service loses money on its heavy users. What matters is the average. Lots of people go for the higher plan because they need it once, then never downgrade even if their regular usage doesn't justify it. And then there are all the people paying for months where they don't use it at all

Among private users willing to pay $200/month average usage is likely very high, but if Anthropic can convince companies to buy plans for entire departments average usage will be much lower on those.

Another issue is that $4000 costs is assuming the regular API is offered at cost, which is unlikely to be true.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by oceanplexian »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #93

I wish models which we can self-host at home would start catching up. Relying on hosted providers like this is a huge risk, as can be seen in this case. I just worry that there’s little incentive for bit corporations to research optimising the “running queries for a single user in a consumer GPU” use case. I wonder if getting funding for such research is even viable at all.

Deepseek R1 is better than any model released more than 6 months ago. You can plug it into open source equivalents of Claude Code like Goose. And it runs on a Mac Studio which you can buy at any consumer electronics store.

The people saying that big tech is going to Gatekeep their IDE or pull the plug on them don’t seem to realize that the ship has already sailed. Good LLMs are here permanently and never going away. You just might have to do slightly more work than whipping out a credit card and buying a subscription product.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by Shorn »

spongebobstoes wrote: post #143
AlexandrB wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not selling them, they're still giving them away. Once the VC money runs out we'll see what the actual cost of this stuff is.

most inference runs at 40%+ margin

I thought it was understood all the large vendors were losing money bigly on inference and will have to pull the rug eventually.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by brokencode »

latexr wrote: post #224
brokencode wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s only a hard dependency if you don’t know and never learn how to program. For developers who read and understand the code being generated, the tool could go away and it would only slow you down, not block progress. And even if you don’t, it really isn’t a hard dependency on a particular tool. There are multiple competing tools and models to choose from, so if you can’t make progress with one, switch to another. T…

> For developers who read and understand the code being generated, the tool could go away and it would only slow you down Recent research suggests it would in fact speed you up. https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-o...

Interestingly, devs felt that it sped them up even though it slowed them down in the study.

So even if it’s not an actual productivity booster on individual tasks, perhaps it still could reduce cognitive load and possibly burnout in the long term.

Either way, it’s a tool that devs should feel free to use or not use according to their preferences.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by kordlessagain »

Hopefully Anthropic is reading these.

I want to start by saying that Claude as a model is excellent. The AI performs exceptionally well at problem-solving and code generation across a wide variety of tasks. My feedback focuses specifically on the Claude Desktop application for Windows.

Stability and Performance: The application frequently displays confusing error messages in the top-right corner, especially when MCP servers encounter issues or during service maintenance. The interface regularly freezes for 30+ seconds, goes completely blank, then takes another 30 seconds to recover. The application often becomes unresponsive to user input, requiring clicks to reactivate. Despite advertising 50+ tools to the LLM, tools are frequently reported as "not found" on first attempt, then work on retry.

User Experience Problems: Loading historical chats takes 5-10 seconds per click, making navigation extremely slow. Chat history is only searchable by auto-generated titles, which are often irrelevant to the actual conversation content. Deleting multiple chats is nearly impossible due to slow loading and poor navigation. No centralized view exists for created artifacts, making them difficult to locate later.

Session Management: The application provides insufficient warning about approaching conversation length limits. Previously available warnings have disappeared. The persistent "Claude can't run code...yet" message is misleading given existing tools like REPL and custom MCP implementations.

Interface Issues: The support chat UI randomly covers interface elements and lacks message editing capabilities. Service status messages are unclear and don't effectively communicate what's happening.

Suggestions for Improvement

1. Implement clear conversation length warnings at 75% and 90% capacity

2. Add an artifacts gallery for easy access to created content

3. Improve chat search with content-based indexing, not just titles

4. Optimize chat loading performance to reduce switching delays

5. Provide better error messaging that clearly explains issues and solutions

6. Add bulk management tools for chat organization and deletion

7. Remove or update misleading messages about code execution capabilities

Claude Desktop is a critical tool in my workflow, but these issues significantly impact productivity and user experience. The application has tremendous potential, and addressing these concerns would greatly improve its value proposition.

If continued development isn't prioritized, consider open-sourcing the desktop application to allow the community to contribute improvements.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by iwontberude »

Implicated wrote: post #22
iwontberude wrote: post #8

Claude Code is not worth the time sink for anyone that already knows what they are doing. It's not that hard to write boilerplate and standard llm auto-predict was 95% of the way to Claude Code, Continue, Aider, Cursor, etc without the extra headaches. The hangover from all this wasted investment is going to be so painful.

Comments like this remind me that there's a whole host of people out there who have _no idea_ what these tools are capable of doing to ones productivity or skill set in general. > It's not that hard to write boilerplate and standard llm auto-predict was 95% of the way to Claude Code, Continue, Aider, Cursor, etc without the extra headaches. Uh, no. To start - yea, boilerplate is easy. But like a sibling comment to th…

I’m still using it for home use, it’s totally adequate for one person code bases. Once you have teams and tribal knowledge to consider, Claude is a waste of time. It valuable for non-commercial or hobbyist grade work.
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