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Apple Rejects App That Tracks U.S. Drone Strikes

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Re: Apple Rejects App That Tracks U.S. Drone Strikes

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Instead of calling this a political move, I'm wondering if they would allow an app that tracks murder victims across the US as they happen. My guess is that it would be rejected too for the same reasons, which are probably not political. This would simply be, as they said, crude. And IMHO, inappropriate.

Or an app that tracks crime, classifiable by type? That would be useful. As would thus app be to many journalists. This is a slippery slope.

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And this illustrates exactly why I haven't taken most of the attacks on Apple seriously up to now. Hatred an bigotry aren't "purely political". The fact that certain sick fucks leverage those sentiment for political gain doesn't change that. You can ban apps that are hateful and bigoted for that reason only, without it being a political statement. This is very different from the drone strike app, which is not objecti…

I was actually remarkably offended when they removed the former app. Exodus is wrong and ex-gay conversion violates APA guidelines, but that doesn't make the app inherently bigoted , which is a remarkably weighty term that I'd prefer leave reserved for people like the Westboro Baptist Church. Exodus claims to 'provide support' for people who want to 'recover' from homosexuality. Predatory? Misleading? Sure. Immoral?…

"Predatory? Misleading? Sure. Immoral? I'd say so.

But unlike homophobes, I don't agree with censoring speech that I disagree with and forcing my beliefs on other people."

Does this even follow? "Predatory" and "misleading" should be enough to remove the app in the first place -- you don't need to assume they removed it because they disagreed with its politics.

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I voted up your comment, but can you give me an example of a country that is a democracy by your definition? What is your definition? [Jeez louis... why did this comment get downvoted? Shees!]

I read your comments where you mentioned Louis a couple of times before I realized you were probably saying (what I'd spell as) geez louise. I kept clicking on the usernames of the people you replied to trying to find how you knew them as Louis. :)

ha! Thanks for setting me straight!

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Newspapers are very influential, more so than Apple. Will you claim that they should print all letters to the editor, with no discretion? How about Hacker News? Shall we lobby pg to remove the ability to flag an article, and let this place turn into Reddit? Yesterday an article I liked had a healthy debate going. It was flagged as not fit for HN (It was political, about race not technology in any way) and it was take…

A letter to the editor is similar to an app? How?

In the sense that private censorship isn't something we should be overly concerned with. This isn't government censorship, this is a private business making a business decision. Go into any store and start yelling at the customers like a street preacher. You will be asked to leave. Same thing at any party. That isn't ehrmagahd censorship.

Re: Apple Rejects App That Tracks U.S. Drone Strikes

#158

I can understand Apple wanting to keep its market place "clean", but at the very least, iDevice owners should be able to opt-in to seeing apps like this. Why can't it just be flagged "adult" or something, and you can then opt-in on your device to seeing apps flagged as such? Why does Apple think it is suitable to make these decisions on your behalf, iDevice users? Are you happy with this? Personally, I'll be sticking…

I believe the following parts of the iOS App Store Review Guidelines answer your question: * We have lots of kids downloading lots of apps, and parental controls don't work unless the parents set them up (many don't). So know that we're keeping an eye out for the kids. * We will reject Apps for any content or behavior that we believe is over the line. What line, you ask? Well, as a Supreme Court Justice once said, "I…

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Re: Apple Rejects App That Tracks U.S. Drone Strikes

#159

I can understand Apple wanting to keep its market place "clean", but at the very least, iDevice owners should be able to opt-in to seeing apps like this. Why can't it just be flagged "adult" or something, and you can then opt-in on your device to seeing apps flagged as such? Why does Apple think it is suitable to make these decisions on your behalf, iDevice users? Are you happy with this? Personally, I'll be sticking…

I believe the following parts of the iOS App Store Review Guidelines answer your question: * We have lots of kids downloading lots of apps, and parental controls don't work unless the parents set them up (many don't). So know that we're keeping an eye out for the kids. * We will reject Apps for any content or behavior that we believe is over the line. What line, you ask? Well, as a Supreme Court Justice once said, "I…

so, in the hands of a islam adherent, an app that shows any female less than fully clothed is over the line.

why aren't they being blocked? i knew it when i saw it!

(There nothing wrong with this viewpoint - i am just using this an example that there are lot of view points out there and Apple shouldn't be making the call on what is in the lines.)

Re: Apple Rejects App That Tracks U.S. Drone Strikes

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If you're in the U.S. or many other countries you aren't in an actual democracy anyway. 1 vote != 1 vote.

I hate when people cling to this middle school notion that a republic is not a democracy. An indirect democracy is a form of democracy.

I figured s/he was making a more nuanced point, e.g. the influence of money in politics, not the one you are implying. Id you are right, I recind my upvote!
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