OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

Post by anon7000 » Sat, Jul 12, 2025, 3:00 AM UTC

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Cursor see it coming - it's why they're moving to the web and mobile[0] The bigger issue is the advantage Anthropic, Google and OpenAI have in developing and deploying their own models. It wasn't that long ago that Cursor was reading 50 lines of code at a time to save on token costs. Anthropic just came out and yolo'd the context window because they could afford to, and it blew everything else away. Cursor could rele…

> Anthropic just came out and yolo'd the context window because they could afford to I don’t think this is true at all. The reason CC is so good is that they’re very deliberate about what goes in the context. CC often spends ages reading 5 LOC snippets, but afterwards it only has relevant stuff in context.

Post by handfuloflight » Sat, Jul 12, 2025, 3:02 AM UTC

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Some excellent points. On “add selection to chat”, I just want to add that the Claude Code VS code extension automatically passes the current selection to the model. :) I am genuinely curious if any Cursor or Windsurf users who have also tried Claude Code could speak to why they prefer the IDE-fork tools? I’ve only ever used Claude Code myself - what am I missing?

I can roll back to different checkpoints with Cursor easily. Maybe CC has it but the fact that I haven’t found it after using it daily is an example of Cursor having a better UX for me.

Post by stogot » Sat, Jul 12, 2025, 3:06 AM UTC

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Seems like the survival strategy for cursor would be to develop their own frontier coding model. Maybe they can leverage the data from their still somewhat significant lead in the space to make a solid effort.

> to develop their own frontier coding model Uh, the irony is that this is exactly what Windsurf tried.

Post by pqdbr » Sat, Jul 12, 2025, 3:12 AM UTC

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Are they? Cursor's Accept / Reject feature for each change it makes in each file is nice whereas I have to use a diff tool to review the changes in Claude Code. Also, if I go down a prompt alley that's a dead end, Cursor has the Restore Checkpoint feature to get back to the original prompt and try a different path. With Claude Code, you had better have committed the code to git, otherwise you end up with a mess you d…

I got burned too many times from that Restore Checkpoint thing not working right, maybe it's been fixed by now but seems silly to rely on something thats not a literal tool built for the job (version control), not a good shortcut.

Post by nrmitchi » Sat, Jul 12, 2025, 3:18 AM UTC

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I actually don't know if there's much that can be done unless there's some non-competes in those employees' contracts which are usually not very enforceable outside of finance iirc.

Non competes aren’t enforceable in California but the company owns the IP so I’m curious about this license loophole they are using.