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OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by RainyDayTmrw »

ec109685 wrote: post #267
Aeolun wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Anthropic just came out and yolo'd the context window because they could afford to I don’t think this is true at all. The reason CC is so good is that they’re very deliberate about what goes in the context. CC often spends ages reading 5 LOC snippets, but afterwards it only has relevant stuff in context.

Background of how it works: https://kirshatrov.com/posts/claude-code-internals Prompt: https://gist.github.com/transitive-bullshit/487c9cb52c75a970...

I'm always surprised how short system prompts are. It makes me wonder where the rest of the app's behavior is encoded.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by arresin »

wadefletch wrote: post #209
aeve890 wrote: post #195

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>Cursor just committed mass consumer fraud at worst, and at best pissed off all their best customers. What happened?

flip-flopping on pricing has led users to feel nickel-and-dimed i like cursor fine, but check out the forum/subreddit to see people talking like addicts, pissed their fix is getting more expensive i think this aggressive reaction is more pronounced for non-programmers who are making things for the first time. they tasted a new power and they don't want it taken away.

No I’m a programmer and I’m better about the rug pull also.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by Maxious »

lozenge wrote: post #177
alanmoraes wrote: post #61

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I never understood why those tools need to fork Visual Studio Code. Wouldn't an extension suffice?

When the Copilot extension needs a new VS Code feature it gets added, but it isn't available to third party extensions until months later... Err, years later... well, whenever Microsoft feels like it. So an extension will never be able to compete with Copilot.

As part of this whole drama, the APIs that Copilot uses are being opened up https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2025/06/30/openSourceAIE...

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by agnokapathetic »

manquer wrote: post #255
asdev wrote: post #30

I never knew anyone who used Windsurf. These AI acquisitions have been unbelievable(in a bad way). WIX acquired some garbage Lovable.dev clone for 80 million. I think many of us are waiting for this bubble to pop(economy will likely pop too)

Everyone has a niche, Windsurf is the only large provider if you are a Jetbrains shop. There are some alternatives like continue.dev or Jetbrains own AI offering but no Cursor or Claude Code ( Sonnet 3.7/4) you can get through Jetbrains plugin or others, but Anthropic does not provide support same with cursor.

claude code has a Jetbrains plugin which is delightful!

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by arresin »

bhl wrote: post #124
jongjong wrote: post #74

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Cursor does add value but it's just a thin layer on top of VSCode so companies could just build that in-house and don't need to acquire. There's no moat there.

Cursor has custom tab and embedding models. And has a lot of distribution / paying users already. Arguably they have the strongest product moat, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they beat OpenAI in a vertical coding model from that. Easy for them to have users generate evals and have model product feedback loop here.

The tab completion is fast and the best available right now but is still so garbage that I turn it off 99% of the time because the suggestions are mostly noise.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by gsibble »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #120
beering wrote: post #96

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Even the original Silicon Valley didn’t match the zaniness of real life. Why do we need a reboot? Just check HN!

My favorite thing about that series was watching it with friends who weren't from the Bay Area. Often they'd be laughing at the sheer absurdity of a situation, and I'd get to point out that it was barely exaggerated from real life.

That's what my friends not from SF said. "This is insane, this would never happen"

Dude, I saw a lot crazier things happen on a monthly basis. And don't even get me started on the personal lives and partying that the show didn't display.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by almost_usual »

blindriver wrote: post #192

The founders fucked over the employees and the investors and sold out. I guess they don’t care if they are worth $200M each but they fucked every employee that poured their heart out into that company. I hope no one works for them again.

This is why working for startups is not worth it.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by gsibble »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #207
0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #11

Pour one out for the regular employees not getting absorbed by Google and suddenly not millionaires like they imagined they were a week ago.

Maybe the expectation that a job leading to an equity windfall is something people should be more cautious about.

It's something you should never assume is true until the wire hits your account. I had a deal where I was going to make $15 million called off 36 hours before closing.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by lbrito »

rileymichael wrote: post #165
submeta wrote: post #105

I went from Emacs to VS Code, then to Cursor, next to Claude Code, which is so good that I feel like I am having half a dozen junior devs at my fingertips, 24/7. Since Claude Code is cli based, I reviewed my cli toolset: Migrated from iTerm2 to Ghostty and Tmux, from Cursor to NeoVim (my God is it good!). Just had a 14h workday with this tooling. It’s so good that I complete the work of weeks and months within days!…

> It’s so good that I complete the work of weeks and months within days and yet you're pulling 14 hour workdays..

So half a dozen junior devs plus 14h workday. That's a ton of surplus value right there. Hope he's getting a cut!
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