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Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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To me it feels like a completely different drug compared to nnDMT. 5-meo-DMT also feels very different depending on the roa from my experience (vaped vs IM)

Ah, a fellow "I've IM'ed tryptamines" person. I made this mistake exactly once, with 4-AcO-DMT. That was the last time I ever did such a thing.

Can you expand on this? I just so happen to have evrything to try this, but never even considered it.

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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We need to push to make this stuff legal. I wouldn't go so far as to say lets sell it OTC vape pens at gas stations but a middle ground where you can go to a doctor to have this treatment performed. I personally have never taken DMT though from everything I've read and heard on podcasts it's not something to be taken lightly. I think having a sort of "DMT Clinic" that you can go to would be the best middle ground of…

"wired" -> weird

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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We need to push to make this stuff legal. I wouldn't go so far as to say lets sell it OTC vape pens at gas stations but a middle ground where you can go to a doctor to have this treatment performed. I personally have never taken DMT though from everything I've read and heard on podcasts it's not something to be taken lightly. I think having a sort of "DMT Clinic" that you can go to would be the best middle ground of…

Last year I underwent treatments for my treatment-resistant major depression using Ketamine. It was a clinical setting, where you'd get wired up to blood pressure, pulse-ox, and other monitors while you were monitored by an RN via video camera. This was IV Ketamine, so not the inhalants that are available now. According to the clinic, the inhalants (which they also offered) are also generally less effective than IV, and the IV was safer in my case because I have other medical conditions where being able to "shut it off" was a good thing - you can turn an IV off, but once you inhale, you're on your own.

So... this clinic was not entirely unlike what you're proposing w/ DMT.

FWIW, the results were incredible. I was effectively "cured." But unfortunately my insurance changed, and it became no longer covered, and I couldn't afford the $2000 every six weeks for the treatment anymore. And it's not super convenient to take two hours off from work to go to the trip-sitter's to get the treatments.

I hope that they figure out what it is in psychadelics that make them effective at treating stuff like depression and PTSD and make it more accessible because it seems like there's so much potential there.

(Also: fuck Elon Musk for making Ketamine a punchline)

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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I don't see why not. Maybe no need to ban altogether, but a heavy tax on both might be useful. For motorbikes maybe just exclude accidents from coverage.

I guess they aren’t very widespread anymore, but should this cover police who ride motorbikes? Or farm/ranch workers (they might ride ATVs)? I guess we could do something like: - + But I think we will have trouble puzzling out the last term!

One has to draw the line somewhere. What you are doing is called a slippery slope fallacy.

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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For the technological context and result: https://www.folklore.org/Joining_Apple_Computer.html Still very sad that HyperCard got sidelined and that even its successor, Livecode abandoned the idea of being available to everyone --- though it looks as if folks are still working that: https://openxtalk.org/

This is off-topic, we are discussing drugs here.

It's not off-topic, it's the intersection of two things that Bill Atkinson was extremely passionate about.

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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For the technological context and result: https://www.folklore.org/Joining_Apple_Computer.html Still very sad that HyperCard got sidelined and that even its successor, Livecode abandoned the idea of being available to everyone --- though it looks as if folks are still working that: https://openxtalk.org/

This is off-topic, we are discussing drugs here.

Hypercard was inspired by an LSD trip.

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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We need to push to make this stuff legal. I wouldn't go so far as to say lets sell it OTC vape pens at gas stations but a middle ground where you can go to a doctor to have this treatment performed. I personally have never taken DMT though from everything I've read and heard on podcasts it's not something to be taken lightly. I think having a sort of "DMT Clinic" that you can go to would be the best middle ground of…

N,N-DMT is very intense and not to be taken lightly - but you could say the same with LSD, psilocybin, etc. Personally, I am much more wary of large doses of LSD/psilocybin than DMT, in part to the substantially longer duration of the former. Ego death and the complete dissolution of reality makes it harder to have a bad trip

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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It's a joke. People often have conspiracy theories about Big Pharma trying to prevent access to novel drugs that could disrupt their cash cows. The parent was jokingly talking about "Big Reality" as an imaginary group of people who hate to see "reality" disrupted by psychedelic experiences.

When someone has a profound psychedelic experience that shows them the arbitrary nature of many social constructs, or reveals possibilities for consciousness that mainstream science doesn't acknowledge... that's genuinely disruptive to systems built on those constructs. The resistance is real, systematic, and rational (from the perspective of maintaining current power arrangements). Not a joke.

As RAW wrote in Cosmic Trigger: "Why does the gnosis always get busted?"

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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Off-topic, but I have to... (From the photo caption) "Bill ... with his iphone prototype" Nope. That's a Sony Magic Link, built by Bill (and others, myself included) during his time at General Magic. I feel General Magic is another one of Bill's endeavors that isn't widely understood or appreciated.

There was a great documentary on Magic Leap! https://www.generalmagicthemovie.com

That is a great documentary, but it's about General Magic, not Magic Leap.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Magic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Leap

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

#140

We need to push to make this stuff legal. I wouldn't go so far as to say lets sell it OTC vape pens at gas stations but a middle ground where you can go to a doctor to have this treatment performed. I personally have never taken DMT though from everything I've read and heard on podcasts it's not something to be taken lightly. I think having a sort of "DMT Clinic" that you can go to would be the best middle ground of…

"wired" -> weird

immediately jogged my memory for one of my favorite stupid Simpsons moments:

"why, there's no magazine called 'Weird' is there?" [0]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjZ0GBL9ArA

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