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Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by makeitdouble »

zero_shift wrote: post #459
mrweasel wrote: post #130

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More and more I think Musk managed to his take over of Twitter pretty successfully. X still isn't as strong a brand as Twitter where, but it's doing okay. A lot of the users who X need to stay on the platform, journalists and politicians, are still there. The only issue is that Musk vastly overpaid for Twitter, but if he plans to keep it and use it for his political ambitions, that might not matter. Also remember tha…

I cannot see how it was a success. 1. He overpaid by tens of billions. That is a phenomenal amount of money to lose on an unforced error. 2. Enough users, who produce enough content, have left to make X increasingly a forum for porn bots, scam accounts and political activists. It's losing its appeal as the place "where the news happens" and is instead becoming more niche. 3. The firings did not go well. X has struggl…

Most people were betting on X going under in some way or another within a year. From that POV, it's survival in itself can be seen a success for Musk.

I'm genuinely surprised at the amount of people that stuck to it.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by tristan957 »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #398
jcranmer wrote: post #281

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The people I've seen who have talked about their engagement numbers--as measured by something like "how many visitors do we get to a story based on a Bluesky/Facebook/ex-Twitter/etc. link", so independent of the social media's self-reported metrics--have all reported that Twitter is generally among the poorest-performing social media sites. Especially if you're looking at it from a perspective of "how much engagement…

> The people I've seen who have talked about their engagement numbers Now do bluesky. X is doing fine. Turns out network effects are real.

I've seen people report they get better engagement on Mastodon and Blue Sky than they ever did with Twitter, based on percentages.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by rockemsockem »

amrocha wrote: post #493
rockemsockem wrote: post #405

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It absolutely has not been claiming that it's "MechaHitler" since it was released. Try.

Right, it’s just been talking about white genocide and generating nazi images instead.

What Nazi images?

The white genocide thing I remember hearing about and looked really forced

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by recursive »

npc_anon wrote: post #474
sorcerer-mar wrote: post #29

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It's weird that you say both she had no material power and also seem to imply the valuation drop and lawsuits were due to her ineptitude? Anyway she volunteered to be a puppet for a man who is clearly off the rails and her legacy will forever be stained.

What legacy? She's not a well known public figure. She ran the ad department at NBC. Is now very rich and at age 61, close enough to retirement age.

If you have enough money, any age can be retirement age. The whole concept of "retirement" is really for the working class anyway.

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Post by fsflover »

baby wrote: post #481
mrweasel wrote: post #130

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More and more I think Musk managed to his take over of Twitter pretty successfully. X still isn't as strong a brand as Twitter where, but it's doing okay. A lot of the users who X need to stay on the platform, journalists and politicians, are still there. The only issue is that Musk vastly overpaid for Twitter, but if he plans to keep it and use it for his political ambitions, that might not matter. Also remember tha…

It's interesting because, as I'm reading this I agree with y'all, it's still stand and I'm still on it. Yet, as a major twitter user, who has a large number of followers and has benefited from twitter a lot (made many relationships, got a job through it, successfully launched a book and a company thanks to it, etc.) I seem to be using twitter less and less these days. I dislike Elon, but I need twitter so much that I…

Make a Mastodon account and post to both places simultaneously. They say Mastodon brings real discussions and engagement.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by CivBase »

zero_shift wrote: post #459
mrweasel wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More and more I think Musk managed to his take over of Twitter pretty successfully. X still isn't as strong a brand as Twitter where, but it's doing okay. A lot of the users who X need to stay on the platform, journalists and politicians, are still there. The only issue is that Musk vastly overpaid for Twitter, but if he plans to keep it and use it for his political ambitions, that might not matter. Also remember tha…

I cannot see how it was a success. 1. He overpaid by tens of billions. That is a phenomenal amount of money to lose on an unforced error. 2. Enough users, who produce enough content, have left to make X increasingly a forum for porn bots, scam accounts and political activists. It's losing its appeal as the place "where the news happens" and is instead becoming more niche. 3. The firings did not go well. X has struggl…

> It makes X an increasingly niche website.

I did not use Twitter. I do not use X. I'm even less inclined to become a user after the Musk takeover. I don't even know anyone who is active on X. However, I still constantly get linked to tweets and see screenshots of tweets (or whatever they're called now). And I never see anything from competing platforms.

X may be failing by many metrics, but in terms of popularity it is still the undisputed king of its market. It's by no means "niche".

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Post by tristan957 »

mumbisChungo wrote: post #114
add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #102

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Twitter is a graveyard being propped up grudgingly by people who don't want to have fewer followers elsewhere, and enthusiastically by other people as way to virtue signal alliance with the ownership's political incorrectness. It has no true value to anyone. It was going downhill already before the new ownership and for completely apolitical reasons.

Change a few words and this describes every social platform including this one. Your comment is evidence, and so is this one.

There are no followers on HN, unless I've totally missed something about the platform.

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Post by kragen »

tonymet wrote: post #336
kragen wrote: post #274

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Possibly leakycap is thinking about 02012 and you're thinking about 02018. In that case you'd both be right about Twitter.

this was my take as well. twitter nostalgia not reality. I put the egalitarian age at around 2009 but you're right Kony-2012 was a huge pivot for social media

I was talking about reality. Twitter wasn't perfect in 02012 but it was before the reproductively viable worker ant.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by tinco »

bhouston wrote: post #137
CyberMacGyver wrote: post #4

One time they let her speak publicly it turned out to be a disaster. She never had any say and worst part is she was not even a good fall guy, it was clear who’s pulling the strings. The most immaterial and inconsequential hire ever. I love all the replies on Twitter thanking her but during her time the valuation dropped 80% and they were suing advertisers for not advertising. Remarkably inept.

> The most immaterial and inconsequential hire ever. I understand she did convince a lot of advertisers to come back and provided a veneer of credibility.

Given the circumstances, is an 80% drop that bad? Many people were expecting Twitter to simply go bankrupt. Perhaps she's the one that saved Twitter.
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